Ive posted alot today

Just saying!

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Hey ! Good job

Good song by a great band

Did you check out the new Incantation Sym?

Also, on an unrelated side note, I saw Brujeria live a little over a week ago. Killer live band...

4:29

I have not.....should i?

And about Brueria.....nice....I have never seen them before. I need the check them out, dont they come around my parts often.....

Last show I went to was Napalm Death, and the next show I'm going to is Devin Townsend and Gojira. Gojira is one of my all time favorites, and I think Devy is a musical genius.

Sym wrote: Gojira is one of my all time favorites, and I think Devy is a musical genius.

Gojira? As in janglish for "Godzilla!"?

Actually thats exactly what Gojira means.....

Awesome!

JrTapia1991 wrote:4:29

I didnt know you liked Machine Head.

Have you listened to the Blackening, and any of their older stuff?

Burn My Eyes was good...

After that it just seems kind of meh to me.

They had a stage that I didnt really like

Especially SuperCharger era

Burn my eyes is fucking classic, as is The Blackening and Locust ( well if your a thrash/ new era thrash fan )

Once Flynn reunited with Demmel from Vio-lence shit got really good.

Sym wrote:

JrTapia1991 wrote:4:29

I didnt know you liked Machine Head.

Have you listened to the Blackening, and any of their older stuff?

listened to the blackening album but nothing earlier than that haha.

listening to "one" by metallica now

JrTapia1991 wrote:

Sym wrote:

JrTapia1991 wrote:4:29

I didnt know you liked Machine Head.

Have you listened to the Blackening, and any of their older stuff?

listened to the blackening album but nothing earlier than that haha.

listening to "one" by metallica now

Here

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Listen to this, man.

This is early, early, early Machine Head.

I never could get into modern thrash to be honest, with few exceptions.

Thrash is a genre where all the vets STILL own the scene

Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:I never could get into modern thrash to be honest, with few exceptions.

Vektor is great

Yeah. I only really care about the vets in the thrash genre, them and old diamonds (which are always nice). Modern thrash just strikes me as oddly groovy for thrash. I guess Pantera are to blame for that...

Vektor is really good, I like them too

Also I like Warbringer a whole lot too

Khfan60 wrote:

Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:I never could get into modern thrash to be honest, with few exceptions.

Vektor is great

No thanks. Especially once the faux black metal vocals kick in, I couldn't find the stop button fast enough.

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This is as good as modern thrash gets

Kreator, Megadeth, Overkill, Testament etc.... still rule the scene to this day.

I cant state enough how much I love Kreator

Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:

Khfan60 wrote:

Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:I never could get into modern thrash to be honest, with few exceptions.

Vektor is great

No thanks. Especially once the faux black metal vocals kick in, I couldn't find the stop button fast enough.

Do you like any black metal out of curiosity?

I do...not much though

I dunno, thrash has always stricken me as has hardcore 80's punk, early 90's hip hop, 70's heavy metal etc.

I find all these genres to be extreme products of their time and its influences. Sure there's hardcore punk after the 1984, but it just doesn't compare to the raw, undiluted, visceral sonic bludgeoning that was a direct product of beginning enthusiasm and footholds into new territories of music at the time.

Likewise, when it comes to thrash, I find few really capture the feel of the early years, when thrash was defining it's sound. You got the big four, you got Voivod, Kreator, Death Angel, Coroner, Exodus, Testament even Pantera, and then in the following years all these bands carving their niches with their own characteristic sounds and takes on what was still an art developing.

I won't say that lack of originality is my complaint, as I listen to a shitload of grind, where it's not so much what you play as how you play it, so originality is pretty low on the list of what I look for in a band in order for them to click for me.
Maybe it's the soul that's missing for me... (where is I still find that soul prevalent in modern death and grind for instance).

I hope this all makes some sense.

I'll check out Warbringer tomorrow after some sleep.

Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:I dunno, thrash has always stricken me as has hardcore 80's punk, early 90's hip hop, 70's heavy metal etc.

I find all these genres to be extreme products of their time and its influences. Sure there's hardcore punk after the 1984, but it just doesn't compare to the raw, undiluted, visceral sonic bludgeoning that was a direct product of beginning enthusiasm and footholds into new territories of music at the time.

Likewise, when it comes to thrash, I find few really capture the feel of the early years, when thrash was defining it's sound. You got the big four, you got Voivod, Kreator, Death Angel, Coroner, Exodus, Testament even Pantera, and then in the following years all these bands carving their niches with their own characteristic sounds and takes on what was still an art developing.

I won't say that lack of originality is my complaint, as I listen to a shitload of grind, where it's not so much what you play as how you play it, so originality is pretty low on the list of what I look for in a band in order for them to click for me.
Maybe it's the soul that's missing for me... (where is I still find that soul prevalent in modern death and grind for instance).

I hope this all makes some sense.

As a fan of the genre, all I have to say is this.

You are correct when you say thrash is really hardcore punk, which it is. Just faster, and louder, and a hell of alot more musically proficient. Your also right when you say thrash was a product of its time, as 95% of the bands I listen to in the genre have been making music since I was a baby. Most modern thrash sucks ass, there are some metalcore/ thrash cross overs which arent to terrible like Shadows Fall ( meh ) but there are a few bands that are good.

I think its pretty much impossible to recreate that bay area sound of the 80's nowadays.

I never said thrash was hardcore punk, although I'm sure a lot of thrash vets grew up on the stuff and the influence is evident. I was using HC more as an example to get my point across.

I only liked maybe 1 or 2 songs off the new Shadows Fall album from back in March I think it was.....their older stuff is decent I thought....even All that Remains older stuff was decent,but the new radio friendly crap....bleh.

Word

I understand what your saying

But in reality thrash is an evolved form of hardcore punk.

Especially the drumming, as prevalent in all early thrash albums. Nowadays bands go with the more death metal approach behind the kit. Which almost totally kills the thrash vibes.

Bands like Sodom, Destruction, Exodus, and Overkill basically created the sound, and nobody can touch it anymore.

I wish I could articulate better right now but Im kinda drunk haha

Thrash is really easy to take elements from, but its very very hard to master /

This is all just IMO of course

JrTapia1991 wrote:I only liked maybe 1 or 2 songs off the new Shadows Fall album from back in March I think it was.....their older stuff is decent I thought....even All that Remains older stuff was decent,but the new radio friendly crap....bleh.

Dude....All That Remains seriously sucks the big one lmao

SF I used to be a fan of before they went radio

I love All That Remains

Haters gon hate

Phil Labonte is the ultimate douche bag

He used to be in Shadows Fall before they got Brian Fair.

The dudes ego is bigger than Texas.

But with that said, to each their own. I like some bands you might think are horrible so meh. haha

Sym wrote:Phil Labonte is the ultimate douche bag

Lol i just wanted to comment on that with this

http://www.theprp.com/2011/11/03/news/all-that-remains-phil-labonte-responds-to-backlash-from-homophobic-black-veil-brides-comment/

I mean i am sure people didn't really care about it when he called the guy a *** in the first place but look at that.. He shouldn't have even responded to it.

I know what you mean. I mean on one hand I like the guy cuz he's pro gun,but.....he really does seem like one of the biggest fuckin douche ever....if anybody ever disagrees with him slightly he bans them from his page lol.

I remember when he dissed the black veil brides guy, everybody got on his ass lol

Sym wrote:Word

I understand what your saying

But in reality thrash is an evolved form of hardcore punk.

Especially the drumming, as prevalent in all early thrash albums. Nowadays bands go with the more death metal approach behind the kit. Which almost totally kills the thrash vibes.

Bands like Sodom, Destruction, Exodus, and Overkill basically created the sound, and nobody can touch it anymore.

I wish I could articulate better right now but Im kinda drunk haha

Thrash is really easy to take elements from, but its very very hard to master /

This is all just IMO of course

Yeah I know what you mean.

The way I've always seen the extreme genres relation to each other is as follows:

HC punk (Stateside) ->thrash->death metal
anarcho/crust punk (Europe) ->grindcore

Later on somewhere the line between grind and death metal blurred into deathgrind.

Then there's also crossover somewhere shortly after early thrash.

In other words, it always seemed to me that onboth sides of the Atlantic, punks wanted to play faster, so they evolved towards thrash, before uping the ante even more and evolving towards death metal on one side of the pond, while on the other they went the grindcore route. Then tape trading started and the lines blurred until everything was meshed together.

That makes alot of sense

I still think Europe has great great death metal.

Its on par and in some sub genres surpasses( tech death ) North America

I like bongos.

Everyone likes bongos Metal. And if one doesn't, one deserves to be shot in the face.

SHOT RIGHT IN THE FACE

Greg do you like Nile?

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Yep, although I have lost touch a bit with the last two albums. I might have listened to them a couple of times at best. Not to say that what I heard wasn't any good or anything.

Can't surpass Annihilation of the Wicked. (is that the correct title?)

Annihilation of the Wicked is correct

It was released in 2005.

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Oppsd, wring album. Still killer, but I'm thinking of the one that has the song Sarcophagus.

In their Darkened Shrines

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That one!!!

I love the aural aesthetics of that album.

Indeed

Karl Sanders is a great guitar player.

..... I like the Beatles

* likes a few Beatles songs *

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