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Longer school year for U.S. students?

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Green bean Specialist

Green bean Specialist

http://www.mercurynews.com/education/ci_22365936/longer-school-year-shorter-summer-vacation-and-plenty

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

good thing I'm done >__>

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

Longer school years IMO won't make up for the crap teachers we have nowadays. I know a good number of good teachers that had to quit because they couldn't support their families due to the pitiful excuse of a wage that they get. Had one who makes more doing construction than teaching the youth of tomorrow.

How sad that our government puts our nations education so low on their priority list.

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Art, I absolutely agree. That's the only reason I don't teach anymore. I absolutely loved it, but you can't live on what they pay you. It's sad...I know a lot of people who got out of teaching because they couldn't support their families on the money.

sheep

sheep

It seems to me like kids are never in school anymore. Every other month they're out for some sort of break or every little holiday or half days on Fridays. Good teachers or not they definitely won't learn anything by not attending school.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

too true art

Keyser Söze

Keyser Söze

Don't worry guys, it's all part of the plan.

Degrade education to create an uneducated populace.

Continue and intensify propaganda and brain washing on now even dumber populace.

Blah, blah, blah....applications aplenty...new world order...



chunckylover53



They've been talking about this since i was in middle school.

The days don't matter, people have to have the will to learn good teacher or not and i think that's something that a lot of people lack. A revamp of how they treat the traditional school day as well.

Take college for example, you're not forced to take all of your classes everyday in an 8 hour stretch and most people can go to class, go home, have some free time, then go off to work.

When you sit in school for 8 hours getting a bunch of different information thrown at you that doesn't correlate with each other you get a little burned out.

Patrick Star

Patrick Star

Atleast i'm almost a senior...

Here we've actually had LAUSD shorten it's school year because they couldn't afford to pay all the teachers, that plus allthe over crowded classes makes it hard for kdis toa ctually get a good education. California educational system be a pity.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I like this comment from it...

"Just what kids with a next to non-existent attention span need, three more months of being fed the same crap they already aren't interested in, learning things they'll never use in life, and losing family and some personal socialization time."

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Camel wrote:Atleast i'm almost a senior...

Here we've actually had LAUSD shorten it's school year because they couldn't afford to pay all the teachers, that plus allthe over crowded classes makes it hard for kdis toa ctually get a good education. California educational system be a pity.

Eeeekkk I think its trying to communicate with us but doesnt know how to spell Very Happy

/Irony

Green bean Specialist

Green bean Specialist

"Longer school year = more time for schools to indoctrinate impressionable minds to the socialist agenda and utter lies that are taking place in there."

In comments

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Green bean Specialist wrote:"Longer school year = more time for schools to indoctrinate impressionable minds to the socialist agenda and utter lies that are taking place in there."

In comments

Wow I figured Greg would be too lazy to make an account just to comment Very Happy

Green bean Specialist

Green bean Specialist

Serious. "Some things schools lie about, some things that are plain and obvious history that I only found out online, which should have been covered in class, teachers not pushing students at all, trying to go through mathematics via the failed Dick & Jane theory which was responsible for making literacy harder."

"No wonder why U.S. is failing on the international levels for schools. Students that attend private schools, as well as homeschooled students tend to test higher, at more advanced grade levels than their public schooled peers."

"This is one of the things that György Lukács did when he infiltrated public schools in the United States."

"Give that name a googling."

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

I went to the largest High school in my country

It had 2000 students

Very Happy

Edit:Just looked its not the biggest anymore D:

Grey

Grey

From my understanding what they're trying to do is something me and my sgt had a discussion about, and even Sheep had. You would be in school for 2 months, off the next, and it would cycle that way for a "school year". It would make a lot more sense cause it was true that the first two months of a normal school year is about refreshing all the stuff you did not retain over the course of the summer break.

Bla125

Bla125

Stupid people and their stupid ideas. They should get stabbed.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Discord wrote:From my understanding what they're trying to do is something me and my sgt had a discussion about, and even Sheep had. You would be in school for 2 months, off the next, and it would cycle that way for a "school year". It would make a lot more sense cause it was true that the first two months of a normal school year is about refreshing all the stuff you did not retain over the course of the summer break.

So pretty much like NZ schools then

4 Terms with a 2 week break between terms except for Christmas

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

JrTapia1991 wrote:I like this comment from it...

"Just what kids with a next to non-existent attention span need, three more months of being fed the same crap they already aren't interested in, learning things they'll never use in life, and losing family and some personal socialization time."

Whoever said that is partially right and partially ignorant IMO.

I agree, kids these days are just not interested in learning. Why do I think that is? Poor teaching both at home and at school.

Good academic skills start and are developed in the early years of a child's life from my observation, and it's important that the child is encouraged to learn. Many people I've spoken to around my age that do poorly or are uninterested in certain subjects usually have had a bad experience in the past when they were trying to learn about it.

For me, math is really hard for me to grasp, not to say it's entirely not my fault, but I've had my fair share of terrible teachers whose response to any of my questions was "It's in the book" or "Why weren't you listening, I already explained that"

With responses like those, the teacher not only loses that particular child, but the entire class room. This is especially true at the lower levels, where self image is extremely important to a child.

TL;DR We need to put greater emphasis on teaching our children and providing quality teachers, especially at the lower levels.

This is also a social issue, which is only exasperated by the abysmal quality of our countries education system

Of course I'm not a fountain of wisdom or whatever, and this is just speculation on my part.

Bla125

Bla125

I love learning but I've had horrible teachers all my life.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I've had pretty horrible teachers over the years as well

Bla125

Bla125

I wish Khult was my teacher.

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

Terry, may I ask what subject you were teaching, I've actually contemplated becoming a teacher at one point, perhaps once I retire from the AF. Not entirely sure what subject I'd want to teach, but what was your experience during the time you were in the field?

I know many teachers have to supply much of what is in their classrooms nowadays, at least that's how it was when I was in HS.

Bla125

Bla125

I think she taught preschool or something. I think.

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Mrs. Terry of Hat

I did teach preschool. I went in wanting to become and English teacher and decided to work with younger kids, but public teaching jobs are so scarce nowadays because every 70-year-old crappy teacher is tenured. They are funneling thousands of graduates into a couple hundred jobs, it's insane. I did get paid pretty well for preschool though, I made about what I would have teaching public school. But it was still terrible. I'm going back to school now for my MBA, the job I currently have in Data Analysis/Marketing pays $6 more an hour and it's entry-level and not even related to my bachelor's degree. I do love it, but I miss teaching.

Duck

Duck

We could spend more money on education, but then how could we afford to invade random middle eastern countries?

Keyser Söze

Keyser Söze

Duck wrote:We could spend more money on education, but then how could we afford to invade random middle eastern countries?

Yeah, and why print books when funds are better used to makes bombs and overthrow governments in the name of oil?...oops, I mean freedom.

sheep

sheep

Henry Rollins wrote an interesing article about how our school systems aren't set up properly to teach our children how to learn. Not simply a teaching error but that they aren't taught how to learn the information provided to them properly. I'll try and find it somewhere.

I attended a year round type school system during elementary school. 3 months on one month off. And I used to be pretty damn smart when I was younger with excellent scores. By middle school I had the reading comprehension of a college student.

sheep

sheep

http://www.technapex.com/2012/08/henry-rollins-education-will-restore-a-vigorous-democracy/

This is not the article I read but I think the video is correct and so is the title.

I agree that a child that isn't alsp taught at home will not learn as well in school. Lazy parents will generally create lazy children because they aren't learning good skills and ethics (like work ethic) at home so they have no ground base to take to school.

I used to do my homework without being told and required no supervison to make sure I got it done and checked my work due to how I was raised.

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

Artimise Flare wrote:Terry, may I ask what subject you were teaching, I've actually contemplated becoming a teacher at one point, perhaps once I retire from the AF. Not entirely sure what subject I'd want to teach, but what was your experience during the time you were in the field?

I was a professor of awesomonics at BAU, thats Bad Ass University for those who don't know. I taught there for three years before I got fed up with my students not being able to understand or complete my lesson plan. Its very hard to teach people who aren't naturally gifted the art of awesomonics, and eventually those brain dead hippie wannabes ran me out of the teaching game.

Grey

Grey

Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:
Duck wrote:We could spend more money on education, but then how could we afford to invade random middle eastern countries?

Yeah, and why print books when funds are better used to makes bombs and overthrow governments in the name of oil?...oops, I mean freedom.

You must not realize how much oil we need for our war machines.

Keyser Söze

Keyser Söze

Discord wrote:
Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:
Duck wrote:We could spend more money on education, but then how could we afford to invade random middle eastern countries?

Yeah, and why print books when funds are better used to makes bombs and overthrow governments in the name of oil?...oops, I mean freedom.

You must not realize how much oil we need for our war machines.

So thus the cycle repeats itself?

Grey

Grey

Eyup.

Crombie

Crombie

Brutal.

Just another example of a bandaid solution to a deep rooted problem.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:
Discord wrote:
Shotgun Dismemberment wrote:
Duck wrote:We could spend more money on education, but then how could we afford to invade random middle eastern countries?

Yeah, and why print books when funds are better used to makes bombs and overthrow governments in the name of oil?...oops, I mean freedom.

You must not realize how much oil we need for our war machines.

So thus the cycle repeats itself?

I still say the US would be alot cooler if they had gone with the original name of

Operation Iraqi Liberation

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