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PlayStation 4 to Boast 50% Power Advantage Over Xbox 720

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Green bean Specialist

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http://www.vg247.com/2013/01/17/showtime-ps4-rumoured-at-1-84tf-xbox-720-at-1-23tf/

The PlayStation 4 will have a 50% raw power advantage over the Xbox 720, according to the latest reports.

Based on developer sources following CES 2013, the report states that the next PlayStation, codenamed Orbis, will have a running-capability of 1.84 teraflops. That compares favourably with the next Xbox, codenamed Durango, which is reported to achieve 1.23 teraflops.

Despite this, however, the report also states that the Xbox 720 will have significantly more RAM. The machine will have 8Gb of RAM, with 3Gb sidelined for the operating system, apps and security.That leaves 5Gb purely for games.

The PlayStation 4, meanwhile, is reported to have 4Gb of RAM, of which 1Gb is reserved for the OS, apps and security, leaving 3Gb for games.

It is also said that both machines will have the ability to read 100Gb Blu-ray discs.

The Xbox 720 is reportedly based on the Radeon HD 8770 GPU, while PlayStation 4 is said to be built on AMD’s A10 APU.

All of which comes at a time when a number of media outlets are said to be prepping “major leak stories” regarding the hardware.

Be excited, people. Whether this latest report is true or not, we’re gonna learn a whole lot more in the coming days and weeks.

Guest


Guest

Thats what Sony said about this gen too

We know how that turned out

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

Sym wrote:Thats what Sony said about this gen too

We know how that turned out

You beat me to it. The PS3 has a lot more processing power than the 360, not that it helped it any.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Yeah that and their shitty online

And the fact that the controller isnt optimized for the most popular genre of this generation

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

but will the PS4 have problems with games like the PS3 did with Skyrim?

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

The Adli Corporation wrote:but will the PS4 have problems with games like the PS3 did with Skyrim?

You would hope Sony would learn their lesson, but......

Zillah

Zillah

What the hell is a teraflop.

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

Zillah wrote:What the hell is a teraflop.

its when a new MMO fails to turn a profit.

chunckylover53



The Adli Corporation wrote:
Zillah wrote:What the hell is a teraflop.

its when a new MMO fails to turn a profit.

you sly fox

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

>__> I thought the other day the xbox was supposed to have like an 8 core cpu and 16gb or ram

chunckylover53



Its all speculation.. For all we know it could be a lot worst.

It's kinda hard to get excitied for rumors/not get excitied.

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

JrTapia1991 wrote:>__> I thought the other day the xbox was supposed to have like an 8 core cpu and 16gb or ram

woah, the PS4 is a 12-core with 24GB of RAM?

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude, they must have a Xeon chip in there!

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I think it's funny with the consoles "needing" so much ram.....at least on pc I heard all games pretty much are only 32bit so can't use that much ram anyway,I heard about 1.7gb at max,and the 360 and PS3 have gone many years on 512mb >__>

Pariah

Pariah

Jr, there's a definite difference between 32 and 64 bit, trust me. I just upgraded from 4 to 8 ram, and concurrently changed to a 64 bit system. It's extremely noticable.

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

32bit OS = 3.2GB of RAM
64bit OS = all the RAMz!!!!1

although the ''Windows <X> Home Premium'' OS's are limited to 16GB, you have to get the Professional/Ultimate versions to go higher iirc.

Guest


Guest

The Adli Corporation wrote:32bit OS = 3.2GB of RAM
64bit OS = all the RAMz!!!!1

although the ''Windows <X> Home Premium'' OS's are limited to 16GB, you have to get the Professional/Ultimate versions to go higher iirc.

Not in windows 8.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28VS.85%29.aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_8

HydrasBreath ♜

HydrasBreath ♜

Zillah wrote:What the hell is a teraflop.

indeed scratch

Pariah

Pariah

HydrasBreath wrote:
Zillah wrote:What the hell is a teraflop.

indeed scratch

It stands for a trillion floating point calculations per second. A computer that runs at a speed of one teraflop per second can perform a trillion calculations. Most don't hit that high, ever. A vast majority of consumer PCs run in gigaflops (billions), not teraflops (fun thing, you can find out your FLOP speed here:
http://www.ehow.com/how_5575658_calculate-teraflops.html)

The worlds fastest computer, the Cray Titan, runs at 17.59 Petaflops...

Chewy

Chewy

Apparently the GTX 670 runs at almost 2.5 teraflops, but my processor runs at less than less than a hundred gigaflops? That don't seem right...

Nobody cares about floating point calculations anyways. I don't need no damn floating points.



Pariah

Pariah

Chewy wrote:Apparently the GTX 670 runs at almost 2.5 teraflops, but my processor runs at less than less than a hundred gigaflops? That don't seem right...

Nobody cares about floating point calculations anyways. I don't need no damn floating points.




I think FLOPs are more pertinent to processor speed calculation, but then...

The GPU is basically it's own processor, except instead of managing a million tasks it's job is exclusively to do one thing, the video output. Might just be that since it can focus all of it's resources on that, it can perform a theoretically higher number of calculations.

Chewy

Chewy

Pariah wrote:
Chewy wrote:Apparently the GTX 670 runs at almost 2.5 teraflops, but my processor runs at less than less than a hundred gigaflops? That don't seem right...

Nobody cares about floating point calculations anyways. I don't need no damn floating points.




I think FLOPs are more pertinent to processor speed calculation, but then...

The GPU is basically it's own processor, except instead of managing a million tasks it's job is exclusively to do one thing, the video output. Might just be that since it can focus all of it's resources on that, it can perform a theoretically higher number of calculations.

Well they're definitely not talking about having a processor perform over a teraflop in this article, that'd be madness. It would be much more in line with GPU speed.

I don't see why it being a dedicated task would make that huge of a difference. Especially when you're talking about potential gigaflops, not the additional amount when the processor already has a load. At any rate I'm far too inebriated to think about it so I'm just going to conclude that flops are dumb.

Zillah

Zillah

Unfortunately Im really lacking in the whole computer science department... its something I'd like to understand a bit better.

Pariah

Pariah

Chewy wrote:
Well they're definitely not talking about having a processor perform over a teraflop in this article, that'd be madness. It would be much more in line with GPU speed.

I don't see why it being a dedicated task would make that huge of a difference. Especially when you're talking about potential gigaflops, not the additional amount when the processor already has a load. At any rate I'm far too inebriated to think about it so I'm just going to conclude that flops are dumb.

Figured it out. It's a core-derived statistic. Processors have a set number of cores, and I've never seen one that exceeds 8, don't know if they even make them. Whereas my gpu has 1344 CUDA cores, all dedicated to it's own task.

So it's not what it's dedicated to that's the issue as I previously thought, it's just how many interlinked brains it has to work with.

Metalzoic

Metalzoic

Pfft.. Flops don't matter.
Which one has the bigger dick?

Guest


Guest

I seriously doubt these consoles will be signifigantly more powerful that the current gen

Metalzoic

Metalzoic

I know nothing about the GPU/CPU measurements, but an 1000%+ increase in ram for the Xbox seems pretty substantial to me.

Hell just giving the current systems that much more ram would probably make a pretty huge difference.

Pariah

Pariah

Sym wrote:I seriously doubt these consoles will be signifigantly more powerful that the current gen

They pretty much have to be. Current gen of PCs will be a ton better, but the ps4 and Xbox 720 are definitely going to eclipse their current console gens.

Guest


Guest

Not really

It would make a difference yes, but not much.

The real problem is the outdated GPU in the 360.

Thats going to bottleneck everything from here on out.

If Microsoft doesn't step up and make it significant, they are going to fail

Guest


Guest

I didnt say they would not be more powerful.....

I said a large improvement

THey really have their work cut out for them if they intend to compete with PC tech.

The PRICE and HEAT will always be an issue

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I read something saying people don't think the graphics would improve much at all,but shadows,lighting,animation,and A.I. would. Honestly console graphics are good enough for me,truth be told by the end of it all I might get both next gen consoles if the games are good enough....but I'm extremely burned out on Halo,etc. so it would be awhile

I also wonder if the next gen will be plagued with the RRODs and YLODs that this gen had,and whatever it's called when the Wii breaks.

Guest


Guest

720p suuuuuuuucks

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Sym wrote:720p suuuuuuuucks

So do pornstars but I dont see you complaining about them

Guest


Guest

Bad comparison

I stand by my statement.

grader

grader

Meh,more rumors.,Im tired of reading these.Others say the 720 will be more powerfull there have been more "leaked" specs released on these two consoles than I can shake a stick at.Im waiting for E3.

grader

grader

Pariah wrote:
Sym wrote:I seriously doubt these consoles will be signifigantly more powerful that the current gen

They pretty much have to be. Current gen of PCs will be a ton better, but the ps4 and Xbox 720 are definitely going to eclipse their current console gens.
Agreed,after 8 years with their current hardware,theres plenty of affordable room for alot of improvment.

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

JrTapia1991 wrote:I read something saying people don't think the graphics would improve much at all,but shadows,lighting,animation,and A.I. would. Honestly console graphics are good enough for me,truth be told

This is exactly how I feel about this whole "power" mess. And its why I doubt I will ever buy a gaming PC.

Metalzoic

Metalzoic

grader wrote:Meh,more rumors.,Im tired of reading these.Others say the 720 will be more powerfull there have been more "leaked" specs released on these two consoles than I can shake a stick at.Im waiting for E3.

You're right, nearly all the rumors so far have pegged the new Xbox as the more powerful of the 2. I think this rumor is just about which one flops harder and that's the PS4.

So the PS4 may have 50% more flops? So what, that is even less of an advantage in flops that the PS3 had over the 360 (PS3 has 2 times the floppage).

What's weird is these numbers are almost identical to this gen

Hmmm... this is weird:

360 = 1 TF
Next Xbox = 1.23 a decent increase

PS3 = 2 TF
Orbis = 1.85TF a slight decrease?

Guest


Guest

For the love of God.....read what I wrote people

Metalzoic

Metalzoic

What do you mean?

Guest


Guest

I wrote I dont see the next gen being a huge leap in power.

Of course they are going to be more powerful....

Pariah

Pariah

I get what you mean, my mistake Sym. Took it differently.

Guest


Guest

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