[FO:NV] New Vegas is soooo much better than oblivion.

I am kinda at aw at how people can even say that new vegas is bad. Maybe it is because I never played fallout 3 but this is just mind blowing how I could put off such a fantastic series as this. So to everyone that has played new vegas and oblivion what do you like better?

Oblivion had a lot to do but it always got boring after a while. Fallout just sucks me in and I never want to stop playing

You can make poisons in New Vegas, I'm just not sure what you can use it for.

Captain Fellis wrote:Oblivion i just dont like the Atmosphere in Fallout and everyone having Guns makes Trolling the Civilian population hard

Like when you Sneak Bound Gauntlets with a Fire on Self Augmentation into their inventory and they run around on fire Screaming

But vats is so much better.

Fallout New vegas looks pretty good compared to Oblivion and the fact that everyone has guns adds to the challenge Frosty. xD Just run around killing everyone with a big ass gun picking up their weapons and ammo.

You can walk around in a suit of power armor wielding a gatling laser. The end.

You're comparing a brand new game with an aged game. Oblivion is a great game for it's time. I would hope FONV would be better.

That sai, I still pick up Oblivion from time to time and create a whole new experience every time I play.

I love the VATS system, especially when you get a slow mo kill with a sniper rifle from a long ways off, at least in FO3 I did (I'll have too see, for this one, but I have a feeling it'll be even btter), where'd you'd get to watch the bullet fly all the way through the air, hit the enemy in the head, then just watch their head burst into a billion pieces, and there body spins like a ballerina.

Ingsmasher wrote:You can make poisons in New Vegas, I'm just not sure what you can use it for.

Haven't made any yet cause I don't have the materials, but you can make some nasty **** around the campfires.

Oblivion was more appealing to the eye.

I had the game and played it for about 30hrs. It was neat to roam around and view the amazing landscapes and fight different creatures, but ultimately I wasn't into the magic and melee system!

FO3 and NV aren't horrible graphically but they aren't awe inspiring either. Game play wise their both good and the sense of adventure seems to be more realistic as one can relate more to the post apocalyptic world vs' a world from the dark ages.

There both good games but i prefer gameplay over graphics.

Pretty true. I played Oblivion for a bit, and I was consantly awed by how cool everything look, especially the alternate world. I mean, for the time, the graphics were really good. Fallout is really cool too, but it's rather....dreary.

I'm only a little hesistant at the fact that boulders and rocks still have sharp pixelated lines in FO.

That and the textures on surfaces are a little aged!

Comparison: A rock wall in Oblivion looked like a rock wall when you get really close. A rock wall in FO looks like a mashed together pallett of colors.

But game play definitely goes to FO. they drastically improved many things from FO3 and i'm a happy camper.... errr wanderer?

Oblvion was a fun game for a mindeless dungeon crawler Hack n Slash. But the second people start commenting on how great a RPG it is(It isn't) you got to question their thought capacity. I tried my hardest to be a ranger.......damn game said "NO You must be WARRIOR NOW" Even my Drunk Wizard was useless on anything above easy and he had insanse magic skills.....

Fallout 3 was fun, BUT always felt unfinished. The Voice acting can be down right Awful at times, Lamplight, and there way way to many useless locations in the game. I like how 2 people in sheds is called a town.

And both games worlds looked great(charecter faces on the ohter hand looked like shit) but where layed out poorly and are only made of various asortment of hills. Walk Over a Hill and know whats on the other side? A Bigger Hill! Mulitple that by allot on you got the Oblivion/FO3 worlds.

Fallout: New Vegas is supperior to both in every way possible.

I can't wait to see Vegas then. I actually kinda enjoyed the barren wasteland of FO3, with nothing in it really but enemies. Just the feeling it gave you, pretty much got it right, but yeah, the voice acting in Little Lamplight wasn't that great. Also, I wish you could kill children in FO, just for Little Lamplight, because if that kid is old enough to say words like that to me, he's old enough for my Blackhawk to wash his mouth out with lead. xD

I fuckin hate little lamplight. It is a entire location composed of the most annoying charecters ever and they CAN'T DIE!!!!

At least the kid in Fallout 2 who stole my magum got kicked in the ball untill he passed out.

Yes, agree. I wanted to kill ALL of them, but especially MacCready. It's like, "If you call me a fucking Mungo again, I'm going to make your face a MANGO".
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LOL! I've never played the first couple Fallouts. Somebody said you could try the 1st one for free somewhere though.

So much violence and anger for LL. I got there and did what i needed to do.

First play through i got to vault 87. spent all of 5 mins there.
Second play through i rescued the kids from the slavers, then went into vault 87.

Otherwise i spent no amount of time IN LL.

I loved Little Lamplight and I love MacCready and I'm convinced it was a nod to The Thing.

I have a soft spot for kids so even if the option was there I wouldn't have killed them. I got teary the first time I saw child skeletons in one of the abandoned houses

If I could have I would have smashed their heads in with a super sledge, and that reminds me (for some reason) I haven't even beat point lookout yet...

You LOVED Little Lamplight?! Are is the word "love" and "Little Lamplight" even possible to connect?! I have a spot in my heart for kids too (no pedo), but I HATED Little Lamplight, especially MacCready, and his little mouth. I don't like it when people mouth off to me, even in videogames.

This sums up pretty much what I wanted to do to MacCready. Even just watching this video (I found it because Higu posted it a long time ago ), and hearing his mouth, made my blood pressure go up a notch...ugh...I hate his snotty little way of talking to you.

Sounds about right.

LOL xD

If a kid became mayor i'm pretty shure i'd do that too.

It's not the fact that he's a kid...just listen to that voice, and he swears at you and such too. If he's old enough to carry a weapon, and use relatively inappropriate words, he's old enough to become a target.

I gave him and all the kids I could in LL power armor and heavy weapons. I liked the Thing reference too.

Oblivion will always suck because of it's HORRENDOUS leveling system. It is easily the worst system of any RPG I have ever played.

blackholedreams wrote:Oblivion will always suck because of it's HORRENDOUS leveling system. It is easily the worst system of any RPG I have ever played.

I thought it was fine.

Either way we need a FO forum. This site has been flooded with FO topics.

In order to get the +5 stats you needed each level to keep pace with the enemies that also leveled with you, you had to game the system properly. The proper way from what I remember involved meticulously keeping track of each skill up, choosing a custom class that specialized in nothing you actually wanted to specialize in to keep from leveling too fast, and just over all feeling clunky and counter-intuitive. Then again, I'm a min-maxxer, so maybe to normal people it wasn't a big deal.

Yay for normal people!

I haven't played either Fallout, but I heard FO3 was Oblivion with guns. Not True?

Not really true, it had a different feel to it.

It felt the same, as they were in basically the same engine. Fallout 3 had very different gameplay and a better leveling system.

How different was the leveling system? I dont need great detail.

Kill things for exp, and I think quests gave you exp too... I totally forgot haha

Fallout 3 uses the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system (strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility, luck...I believe), which came from the first two Fallouts. Instead of increasing your skills by performing actions, you earn XP from killing, questing, or using your repair/hack/lockpick skills. When you level up, you get to put points into your skills. You get perks every level that grant you skills or unique abilities. Every few levels you get to boost one of your SPECIAL stats. It flowed well and let you play a character type you actually wanted. Although, by the end, if you knew what you were doing you could be proficient in almost everything.

Oblivion's Major/Minor skill format made leveling kind of tricky if you weren't paying attention when you set your character up.

I guess it was partly my fault, but I wanted to level Illusion as high as possible, but since it was a minor skill it leveled slower.

I may be forgetting some details, but my last memories of Oblivion was running around constantly casting a light spell in order to level up.

I usually planned my character well in Oblivion so I rarely had issues with the leveling.

The casting a light spell over and over was a pain, but I used a lot of non-magic users. More assassins and warriors.

I had so many issues trying to level up in oblivion and finding where to go that I just gave up and sold.

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:Yes, agree. I wanted to kill ALL of them, but especially MacCready. It's like, "If you call me a fucking Mungo again, I'm going to make your face a MANGO".
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LOL! I've never played the first couple Fallouts. Somebody said you could try the 1st one for free somewhere though.

Even my saint character would have slaughtered the little fucks in little lamplight. I swear being called a Mungo made me rage so hard. No kids in New Vegas = thank god.

You could kill kids in the original Fallout games, though I don't think you could get away with that nowadays.