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Hind or the Blackhawk? Which do you prefer?

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Erkeric
Chewy
StormEye
Valukar
Frostbyrn
ALargeEffinFry
Ars Diaboli
Zillah
The Adli Corporation
DRGN LRD 1213
Artimise Flare
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Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

So I tried flying the Hind for the first time on Heavy metal and I can say that I really don't care for it for some reason, now I've never gunned from it but according to my partner he says it fires as sluggish as it moves. To me I feel like I'm flying a freaking bolder, the Blackhawk at least to me felt more responsive, though trying to be fair to both door gunners on the blackhawk can be a little annoying.

Any experienced chopper pilots able to help me out here as far as the pro's and cons of either or what you prefer?

As far as I can say is that the Hind would seem to be better suited to annoy tanks since its gun hits harder, as for the blackhawk, target saturation is what will keep the infantry scurrying around like panicking ants, not to mention the fact that you have two gunners I suppose.

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

The Hind used to rape on Isla Inocentes back on release! It's not that bad to fly. Actually its nice because when you pilot this you don;t have to worry about your gunner at all. He can pretty muchs see wherever he wants to. You can just focus on flying and avoiding things.

Also the Blackhawk gunners. Well if I fly I don;t worry about one of them they are just screwed. I just focus on piloting for one guy.


That being said I used to be a fair to good pilot just don;t care to do it at all anymore.

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

I'll have to give it a chance again, but my gunner definitely needs to get used to it again, couldn't get a kill an inch wise, the Attack Choppers seem to steal all the glory on that map, not sure what the point is of having transport helicopters since there really isn't any point of having one with the way the spawn system works.

Oh well, at least they're fun to fly. I do like the HUD though on the HIND, not sure why I like it it just looks cool to me.

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

Are you talking about Heavy Metal?? THe only experience I have had in it was on Isla Rush.

Guest


Guest

I don't like how the HUD for both transport copters is frozen on the console. That computer shit should be moving Sad


And the Blimphawk is really annoying to fly. Hind all the way babby

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

i like the hind way more than the blackhawk.

i cant fly but gunning is better and its easier to keep in the air if you're repairing from a passenger seat.

a circling blackhawk with gunners is usually quite slow, and an AT4 is game over so i dont really like doing repairs in a blackhawk.

the Hind is pretty quick and so i dont have as much trouble with AT4s, just AA and tracers which are not as serious, assuming the chopper is taking the AA out while im repairing.

plus the hind has a better gun with a better FoV so its easier for the gunner to protect the chopper while im repairing, going after AA or tanks in a blackhawk isnt as easy.

Zillah

Zillah

My votes with the Blackhawk. ive had games with 50+ kills with it.

Ars Diaboli

Ars Diaboli

The Hind. It's so much better in regards to actual killing potential. While piloting it in Isla Inocentes, a friend took out 75% of the attacker's tickets as a gunner.

The Blackhawk is good too, but I find it easier to kill with the Hind.

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

Im gonna say blackhawk.

I prefer to shoot out of it(obviously)but i can pilot pretty good as long as im not distracted by my phone. Im pretty good at faking people out and dodging stuff. As a few members can vouch for. But i ONLY fly left unless i just have to do right, cause lots pf people(especially now since 'Nam i guess) like to shoot at the chopper, and the pilot is on the right side and i take damage.

As for the Hind, its ok to fly, but i feel i have less control.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

HIND can snipe blackhawk cant as much

Also Blackhawk can actually take out tanks and Entire HIND salvo does a grand 1 damage to tanks

But yeah im iwth Blackhawk theyre just so much more fun to fly and lighting stuff up with the chaingun rocks

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

The black hawk and its chain guns sound AWESOME!!!!!! I'll give it that!

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

Ya like frost said, blackhawk can wreck on a tank. i think every bullet does 1 damage.

If an entire salvo of Hind hits, its 1 damage. so it takes 100 salvos, or 800 chain gun bullets, to kill it.

Valukar



aside from doing nothing to tanks, a hind is infinitely better than a blackhawk. i thought that was obvious

http://www.gamerhold.com/forum

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Unfortunately its not a Competant gunner with a competant Pilot should be able to Wreck on a HIND unfortunately getting both in combination is hard

Valukar



yeah but a hind can take out a blackhawk in one burst

http://www.gamerhold.com/forum

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Yeah but because of its Sluggish bullets unless your really good at leading most bullets dont hit

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

on isla, me and my blackhawk crew usually never die by the hind.

Valukar



okay...?

you just said a competent blackhawk gunner can beat a hind. i'm saying a competent hind gunner will beat a competent blackhawk gunner.

http://www.gamerhold.com/forum

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Yeah but its harder to be competant with the HIND thats the thing

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

Ya i see less good hind pilots than blackhawk gunners.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Mind you it depends what your aiming at

A HIND gunner should have no problem hitting infantry while a Blackhawk gunner should have no problem hitting a Vehicle of a decent size

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

so many hinds fly straight into the VADS, stupid buggers. some do it twice or 3 times in a row.

i havent had much AA experience against blackhawks besides rockets since i dont think many maps have AA and blackhawks at the same time.

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

that is true, but its main purpose isnt anti tank, its ground support and transport.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

I love those times when i get in the HIND first and start piloting and stay in base until the VADs is down while half my Randie team shoots rockets at me and throws a tantrum because im not flying straight into my death

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

I had a guy send me hatemail cause i wasnt taking off cause VADS was up, and he called me a boosting, glitching, hacker, like all level 50s

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Yeah i fucking love getting hate mail from Dumbshits like that

If they left the safety of the spawn for one fracking Second to take out the VADs we would be in the air by now

Shit half of them were Recon anyway

Also i hate when one of those Dumbshits takes the UAV and uses it to take out one Infantry soldier instead of the Vads

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

Yupp, its dumb.

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

^ yeah. the only time the hind circles our base is when ive been UAV'd or attacked by assualts before the hind takes off.

as soon as the tiny hind pops up from the deployment im shooting at it. most of the time it gets a salvo or too off before exploding halfway between deployment and our base XD

i love killing the UAV with the VADS when i see it. its inescapable Razz

i also turned the VADS on the attackers using the top of the building opposite it as a hideout, they didnt last very long... Very Happy

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Its stupid the last base on Atacama though

The Defenders shouldnt get a VADs on that base also the ones on previous bases shouldnt freaking Respawn so theres 2 up at 1 time

Especially since they have like 3 tanks with 50 cals on them

StormEye

StormEye

Does anyone else find it funny that an anti-infantry suppressive measure of Blackhawk is more useful against vehicles while 30mm Canon (should be 12.7mm Gatling Gun iirc, but whatever) primarily for engaging vehicles, is better against infantry.

Chewy

Chewy

I like being the hind gunner a lot more, you can actually hit people with it.

Only have been it once though and that was on PS3.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Yes i can see the Stupidity and the kind of balancing that means the HIND is worse against Tanks though

ALargeEffinFry

ALargeEffinFry

Ya iits dumb.

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

i prefer gunning the Bhawk since its easier to deal with pilot movements and the chainguns make killing stuff easier

but i prefer being an engy in the hind due to it being faster a lot of the time, plus i find less people trying to shoot me out of it.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Lol with a Bad Pilot as an Engy youll probally be looking at the roof 90% of the time anyway

Chewy

Chewy

I love dropping C4 off a blackhawk, that is so satisfying to get kills with. Really easy on that island map too.

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

Wait, so the blackhawk can take out tanks? wtf? doesn't the HIND fire larger rounds? That doesn't seem to make much sense to why the Blackhawk can take out vehicles but the HIND can't do jack. Weird, I enjoy the Blackhawk more as a pilot, but then again, to be fair, I have not flown in the HIND a lot, in fact, I've only done it once, so perhaps I should give it another whirl and see.

Might anyone have some suggestions on what my gunner should use? I normally run around with Smoke myself and my gunner runs with warheads.

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

Sheogorath wrote:Lol with a Bad Pilot as an Engy youll probally be looking at the roof 90% of the time anyway

i look at the roof all the time anyway, since it doesnt always repair what you drill. i find a spot that works and keep pointing at it so i KNOW that i will repair when i drill.

unless i go for rocket kills, but one time i blew myself up with an AT4 while in a blackhawk i lol'd when i figured out what happened..

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

HIND can damage Vehicles just not Tanks while the Blackhawk can

Also Kutku you know the Chopper has to be Level for you to repair right?

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

^ aaaaahhhh. i didnt know that

that must be the problem then Rolling Eyes

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

I thought you could only repair the chopper when it was close enough to the ground.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

I thought it was common knowledge by now

But yeah you have to be Hovering perfectly level or landed on the ground to repair

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

Ah, I haven't kept up with it much to be honest. I didn't really start trying to earn my wings until recently, and seeing as how I hate rush, I never flew in the Blackhawk or HIND to really know lol.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Too bad your not on 360 me or Dark could give you tips

Or if you want to learn how to whore attack choppers you could ask Lead

StormEye

StormEye

They can re repaired even without being perfectly level, its just that the bos shifts in weird angles that in certain flight paths it is impossible to hit it with the repair tool (since repair tool is basically a SHORT ranged gun with negative damage). It is just easy to fix while on level'd flight, but it does not mean it cannot be fixed while on a tilted flight path.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Still the Repair only while hovering Approach is the safest way to make sure all your repairs hit

StormEye

StormEye

In a desperate times, it is not a bad idea to try to spam the general area to repair, rather than bailing prematurely.

That extra 3 healing, you got randomly spraying repair, might save the crew.

Erkeric

Erkeric

I prefer the Black hawk. For one thing I feel like a bad ass while flying it. I cant stand the attack choppers and the hind is just as bad in my opinion.

As for the gunners, I almost always focus on giving the port side gunner good shots. Only when a random is in that gun and a buddy is on the other do I switch.

Also I hardly ever have a problem with getting shot down. Ive always got smoke on so tracers are useless unless I dont see it, and even then I hear the beeping and a combo of evasive flying and smoke does the trick. Ive been hit by an AT4 something like 3 times so those are pretty easy. The only thing that gets me is machine guns and snipers. Sometimes my gunner just doesnt feel like shooting at the guys using those. I also get sniped out of the chopper after they figure out they cant use rockets. Also lucky non lock on rockets seem to do me in a lot too. I normally fly pretty slow and low for the gunners so I guess I am an easy target with those.

Artimise Flare

Artimise Flare

I'd go back to the 360 if I didn't already invest so much time into the PS3 version. The free internet also is very nice. I know I know, 50 bucks a year isn't all that bad, but I tried that already with one of my buddies who runs with me all the time, and he wouldn't have it.

I am practicing to be good in all forms of aircraft though, be it a transport or an attack chopper. Just have to get good at taking out other choppers now.

TheGM

TheGM

Yeah it is something to think about.

On one hand the PS3 online is free...

On the other hand.....worse online community.

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