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Religion?

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1Religion?  Empty Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:05

Who?

Who?

Just curious what everyone thinks. been sitting here in class and wondering what you guys see. P.s. I am not going to preach at anyone.

2Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:06

Ante

Ante

Oh dear.



Atheist.

3Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:07

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

I have founded the cult of DL.

4Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:11

Gary Effin' Oak.

Gary Effin' Oak.

Religion? Runnnnnn from the thread!

<--- Agnostic

5Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:16

Who?

Who?

haha well I'm not gonna judge or Prod. haha I just was Curious. as for me I am Christian.

6Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:18

Chewy

Chewy

Atheist or agnostic depending on how you define them. Basically I don't claim to know the answer but I don't believe any of the religions that have been formed are legit.

7Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:18

Who?

Who?

May I ask why?

8Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:23

Chewy

Chewy

For the most part I just think that if there was a true religion then the God dude would have let people know sooner than thousands of years after mankinds existence.

9Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:29

Who?

Who?

that is understandable. I mean I can see why you wouldnt choose to believe it.

10Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:31

Ante

Ante

I just want to post this here too, to keep any tensions low.

Religion?  Tumblr_lr67v3dPMP1qjsq03o1_500



(this is coming from an atheist)

11Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:31

chunckylover53



Religion?  Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTQSisWU_CEByyPnuo6Ygw73L_eECDIoHDEyiYmZhotFhSXNNxj6A

Shall lead us...

12Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:32

asdf

asdf

*Walks in*

NO!

*Walks out*

13Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:41

Who?

Who?

14Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 14:53

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

i withdraw from this topic on philosophical grounds Razz

15Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:19

Guest


Guest

People stop. If you can't have a civil conversation about religion, just dont post.



I grew up in a Christian family. I fell out of religion when I moved out though. My wife and I have been discussing the possibility of our return. If for nothing else, it will give our kids some positive surroundings.



Still struggling with religion myself though. My brother built the youth program at a church that was not doing very well. It became a big thing and the church thrived as a result. A bit later, his wife left him. Money reasons. The church didn't like the image of divorce so they forced him out. It really put a bitter taste in my mouth about church.



But since then, I've met some christians who are really great people. I respect them more every time I see them. So we may return one day.

16Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:25

Who?

Who?

^^Respect.^^ I was wondering if I would get any of those responses.

17Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:29

Guest


Guest

Why is that?





I know 90% of the internet flames religion. But on a person by person basis, it's not as nearly as awful as they make it out to be.

18Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:32

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

just to let you know, the 'philosophical grounds' wasnt a stab at religion, its just that ive been studying philosophy of religion at college and i have learned far too many different theories and its really hard to find one that i agree with and logically accept.

hope no-one took it the wrong way.

19Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:34

Guest


Guest

All good Adli.

20Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:40

MEGA MILK

MEGA MILK

I started going to a non-denominational church with my dad back in middle school, after the divorce, and went there up until I moved.

My family was never really all that "religious," so going always felt kinda odd and out of place in my life. My mother always thought the idea of my father going to church was hilarious, though I don't know why or think I want to know why.

I am an atheist, but I revere Christianity. It's helped a lot of people find a life.

21Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:42

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I agree with Chewy...

I think there's just too many loopholes to believe in it.It makes me sad if this life is really all there is.idk,there might be somethin after death but I always doubt it in the back of my mind.I think we had to come from somethin.Like what caused the big bang and why then and just too many questions it would fry your brain to think of it all lol.

22Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:46

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

one of my rules when i comes to religion is if it doesn't adversely affect others (like a violent cult) or force itself on people who don't want it (like the people who constantly yell that you're going to hell until you join the church), its ok with me.

if religion is handled right its really beneficial (set of morals, positive teachings, easy for the mass population to understand) and can help you grow up with a healthy attitude to others.

but it can get warped really easily into something that it originally wasn't, such as some of the christian/muslim extremist sects, and end up doing harm such as terror attacks. if people interpret the religion in a violent manner, thats where problems arise.

23Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:48

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

JrTapia1991 wrote:I agree with Chewy...

I think there's just too many loopholes to believe in it.It makes me sad if this life is really all there is.idk,there might be somethin after death but I always doubt it in the back of my mind.I think we had to come from somethin.Like what caused the big bang and why then and just too many questions it would fry your brain to think of it all lol.

exactly.

its so hard to think of something with no cause at the beginning of everything (god) but at the same time its virtually impossible to conceive of a universe that goes back forever in cause/effect with no actual beginning (infinite regression)

24Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:51

Who?

Who?

Nogbad The Bad wrote:one of my rules when i comes to religion is if it doesn't adversely affect others (like a violent cult) or force itself on people who don't want it (like the people who constantly yell that you're going to hell until you join the church), its ok with me.

if religion is handled right its really beneficial (set of morals, positive teachings, easy for the mass population to understand) and can help you grow up with a healthy attitude to others.

but it can get warped really easily into something that it originally wasn't, such as some of the christian/muslim extremist sects, and end up doing harm such as terror attacks. if people interpret the religion in a violent manner, thats where problems arise.

this is true. I am ashamed of the people that claim to be Christian, and them go out and yell at people in anger. Being a christian is about being Like Christ, and yelling at those who don't know who Christ is, is just a major turn off, and not what Christ would have done. Christ wouldnt scream at people involved with sin, he was the one who went to them, and showed them the love that they had not felt before.

25Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 15:57

Grey

Grey

I am an Atheist Republican (Tell me how that works). But the reason why I don't believe in a God or gods is that I am a man of science. If I can't hold it, I don't believe in it (except ghosts. I believe in ghosts). Also. All the religions have too many strict rules. I can't believe in the paranormal says Christianity. I can't eat bacon says Jewdaism. I have morals that I choose to live by.

This may seem a little disrespectful:
Spoiler:

26Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:01

Who?

Who?

Rainbow Vakarian wrote:I am an Atheist Republican (Tell me how that works). But the reason why I don't believe in a God or gods is that I am a man of science. If I can't hold it, I don't believe in it (except ghosts. I believe in ghosts). Also. All the religions have too many strict rules. I can't believe in the paranormal says Christianity. I can't eat bacon says Jewdaism. I have morals that I choose to live by.

This may seem a little disrespectful:
Spoiler:

How the Hell does the Republican thing work?!?! and I have heard that a lot. you are materialistic, which makes sense, but doesn't explain the Ghosts thing either. I for one, Believe in Ghosts, not sure whether I would call them Demons, Angels, or just people, but I do know of Ghosts being Real.

27Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:04

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

What do you mean how does being republican work?

You dont have to be Christian to enjoy going to war

28Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:06

Who?

Who?

lol I just meant that mostly Republicans are Christian. and seeing one who isnt, just astounds me.

29Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:11

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

That was a joke btw just to be clear before i get flamed

Anyway Im an Atheist

One of the things I dont like about mainstream religion is the Hypocrisy and the fact they usually cant mind their own fucking business

Like those people who stage massive protests to ban gay marriage because "It undervalues their morals and destroys the sanctity of marriage" I mean seriously the government has to do whats best for all its people not just a certain majority.I mean when it comes down to it everyone is responsible for their own immortal soul and no one elses if they want to marry a man and god turns out to be real well then they have to deal with the consequences of that not you.

30Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:18

Chewy

Chewy

Sir Shmoopy wrote:That was a joke btw just to be clear before i get flamed

Anyway Im an Atheist

One of the things I dont like about mainstream religion is the Hypocrisy and the fact they usually cant mind their own fucking business

Like those people who stage massive protests to ban gay marriage because "It undervalues their morals and destroys the sanctity of marriage" I mean seriously the government has to do whats best for all its people not just a certain majority.I mean when it comes down to it everyone is responsible for their own immortal soul and no one elses if they want to marry a man and god turns out to be real well then they have to deal with the consequences of that not you.

I wouldn't call the people like that part of mainstream religion, most churches don't preach about that stuff at all. They just get all the media attention.

I personally think all the gay-bashing religious people are using religion as a justification of their hate rather than the reason behind it though. Most normal Christians seem to be fine with it.

31Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:27

Guest


Guest

Additionally, it's not just Christians who are against Gay marriage. As Chewy said, the media hypes it up a bit as well.

32Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:34

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

chick on chick is fine with me XD

33Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:35

Symbolic

Symbolic

Im just going to say this. The more you read and research, the more blurry the lines become. Educate yourself, and dont follow blindly.

34Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:36

Who?

Who?

Chewy wrote:
Sir Shmoopy wrote:That was a joke btw just to be clear before i get flamed

Anyway Im an Atheist

One of the things I dont like about mainstream religion is the Hypocrisy and the fact they usually cant mind their own fucking business

Like those people who stage massive protests to ban gay marriage because "It undervalues their morals and destroys the sanctity of marriage" I mean seriously the government has to do whats best for all its people not just a certain majority.I mean when it comes down to it everyone is responsible for their own immortal soul and no one elses if they want to marry a man and god turns out to be real well then they have to deal with the consequences of that not you.

I wouldn't call the people like that part of mainstream religion, most churches don't preach about that stuff at all. They just get all the media attention.

I personally think all the gay-bashing religious people are using religion as a justification of their hate rather than the reason behind it though. Most normal Christians seem to be fine with it.

As I said earlier, I am ashamed of those people. Like I said, Christ would be there showing them love, not yelling at them, telling them that they are sinners and that they are going to hell.

35Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:37

Who?

Who?

Achilles wrote:Additionally, it's not just Christians who are against Gay marriage. As Chewy said, the media hypes it up a bit as well.

Correct. its rare that it is even mentioned in the Church. Church being the people, not the Building that you go to on sundays.

36Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:38

Symbolic

Symbolic

Im not a fan of hypocrisy.

37Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:40

Who?

Who?

Symbolic wrote:Im not a fan of hypocrisy.

Honestly, Noone is. but those who do it, are so far into their own lies that they do not even realize what they are doing wrong.

38Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:42

Symbolic

Symbolic

I grew up in a very religious family. I dont define myself as an atheist or religious. I honestly dont know. But there are things I do know that will make you question everything your faith is founded on. This is coming from a kid who raised in a very religious home. Im just saying, religion has always been a tool of evil, and the root of almost every single war in human history.

39Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:44

Who?

Who?

The War thing, I can agree with, but the whole evil part I don't see. do tell.

40Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:46

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

Who? wrote:
Chewy wrote:
Sir Shmoopy wrote:That was a joke btw just to be clear before i get flamed

Anyway Im an Atheist

One of the things I dont like about mainstream religion is the Hypocrisy and the fact they usually cant mind their own fucking business

Like those people who stage massive protests to ban gay marriage because "It undervalues their morals and destroys the sanctity of marriage" I mean seriously the government has to do whats best for all its people not just a certain majority.I mean when it comes down to it everyone is responsible for their own immortal soul and no one elses if they want to marry a man and god turns out to be real well then they have to deal with the consequences of that not you.

I wouldn't call the people like that part of mainstream religion, most churches don't preach about that stuff at all. They just get all the media attention.

I personally think all the gay-bashing religious people are using religion as a justification of their hate rather than the reason behind it though. Most normal Christians seem to be fine with it.

As I said earlier, I am ashamed of those people. Like I said, Christ would be there showing them love, not yelling at them, telling them that they are sinners and that they are going to hell.

They might say it but I know alot of people against Homosexuality

Too be fair its about 40/60 Atheist/Religious though

41Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:47

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I agree Sym...

I actually do really HOPE there's something after death...it trips me out thinking about death...makes me zone out and get real sad...

I'm really not in the best situation being poor as hell but I still love life and I'm only 20 but I think about life alot

42Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:52

Pariah

Pariah

Personally, I practice and identify with no religion, just because my sense of logic and truth screams out against it.

Chewy wrote:Atheist or agnostic depending on how you define them. Basically I don't claim to know the answer but I don't believe any of the religions that have been formed are legit.

Atheist: "God doesn't exist"

Agnostic: "God may or may not exist"

Just sayin'

43Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:53

asdf

asdf

Whoa, the post count on this thread is at 40 and a flame war hasn't broken out.
Good job so far.
Thumbs up

44Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:55

Pariah

Pariah

You know Peavs, this might be the SeC at its most level-headed yet.

45Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 16:57

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

It's nice to have a civil discussion...I like seeing different points on stuff.

The universe had to come from somethin lol.Maybe the spaghetti monster farao

46Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 17:02

Pariah

Pariah

I agree, it is really nice. Especially after the clusterfuck that happened with my thread on Slavery:The Game brought about. btw i showed that trailer to my history teacher this morning.

47Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 17:13

Symbolic

Symbolic

Im just saying. Do research into the Roman Catholic church. That will tell you all you need to know.

- Did you know the Bible you read is not complete and is deliberate missing content as the church didn't like the way it portrayed Jesus?

- Ever heard of the Crusade's?

- White Supremacist's? They use the Bible as a tool to manipulate the public.

- Muslim extremist's?

Im not being a dick here, Im just saying. This is the truth, and its all documented in history.

- Not to mention that religion is the easiest way to control the mass public. Everybody in history has known this, and has used it to their advantage in many many circumstances. Its simple, instill fear, shame and guilt into people, and they become sheep.

While religion itself may be harmless, its a fact it has been spun, and used as a tool of evil forever, and in almost every culture in varying amounts.

48Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 17:14

Who?

Who?

Pariah wrote:You know Peavs, this might be the SeC at its most level-headed yet.

its nice to know that we are all Capable of having totally serious conversations without a total break down.

49Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 17:16

Symbolic

Symbolic

I have controversial feelings on the subject, so I usually keep my mouth shut. But I see this thread is level headed, so I feel I can say that. Good job SeC. Laughing

50Religion?  Empty Re: Religion? 2011-09-08, 17:20

Kyuubey

Kyuubey

I'm Catholic Very Happy

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