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Bungie's Destiny: always online console shooter revealed

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http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-always-online-console-shooter-revealed/

Players will be able to customize their identities and gear as they venture across "a future vision of our own solar system on quests to gather loot and defeat evil." Destiny allows for single-player enjoyment, but the crux of the title's gameplay revolves around co-op multiplayer. As such, a constant internet connection is required in order to "realize the vision of the game," according to Bungie. There will be no subscription fee, and Bungie says that we shouldn't expect to see zones filled with hundreds of players.

Kenshiro

Kenshiro

Also PC, if people are to be believed.

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

MH wrote:Also PC, if people are to be believed.

well if it is console-exclusive then at least they finally get their own persistent-world MMOFPS Smile

if it does come to PC though, it'll face quite a bit of competition.

menacinglemon

menacinglemon

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EwOUi4JDC4o?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

3:08 for some 'gameplay'

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

hmm, its got a nice style from those quick shots.

i'll give it a go if it comes to PC, if not ill play it when i get some way to play my Xbox Razz

Guest


Guest

No PC

Bungie sounds like a bunch of blabbering idiots

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/17/destiny-not-coming-to-pc-bungie-deny-reality/#more-142648

Pariah

Pariah

no opinion on this. Bungie makes good games, and if it's anything like Halo and it comes to PC, I'll try it. However, the always-on connection part annoys me.

Guest


Guest

"Nobody wants to play FPS with a M/KB anymore"

WTF?

Morons...

Ante

Ante

Sym wrote:No PC

Bungie sounds like a bunch of blabbering idiots

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/17/destiny-not-coming-to-pc-bungie-deny-reality/#more-142648


Ugh, potentially interesting game ruined by one line.

Pariah

Pariah

Sym wrote:"Nobody wants to play FPS with a M/KB anymore"

WTF?

Morons...

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/2i-7MJOL6Ks?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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Guest

Sounds to me like they just want to make the most profit, which is obviously consoles.

And they make up some BS line about nobody wanting to play FPS on PC anymore, which is exactly what it is. BS

MADEWITHROBOTS

MADEWITHROBOTS

Sym wrote:"Nobody wants to play FPS with a M/KB anymore"

WTF?

Morons...

Eh..that's not what they said. It still seems an arrogant statement, but I think RPS has taken what they said completely out of context.

Frostbyrn

Frostbyrn

PC players are the leading cause of prolapsed rectum in the US

SCIENCE FACT!

Chewy

Chewy

There seems to be some conflicting things here....

On the possibility of a PC version, Parsons said: "We would absolutely love to be on the PC. If you talk to the people upstairs, we play it on all platforms. So, stay tuned."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-17-destiny-requires-an-internet-connection-to-work

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Guest

MADEWITHROBOTS wrote:
Sym wrote:"Nobody wants to play FPS with a M/KB anymore"

WTF?

Morons...

Eh..that's not what they said. It still seems an arrogant statement, but I think RPS has taken what they said completely out of context.

Of course I was summarizing, but this is the exact quote.

"We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo ’cause nobody wants to."

How else can you interpret that?

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

i'd wager that people who dont want to play FPS games with KB/M have never played shooters with a KB/M.

the control you get from the mouse far outweighs the lack of analogue movement.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I tried out fps on pc with keyboard and mouse and hated it,besides the lack of aim assist,it didn't feel as good as the 360 controller,but I know most pc people seem to love keyboard and mouse

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JrTapia1991 wrote:I tried out fps on pc with keyboard and mouse and hated it,besides the lack of aim assist,it didn't feel as good as the 360 controller,but I know most pc people seem to love keyboard and mouse

You just need to get used to it.

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Guest

The Adli Corporation wrote:i'd wager that people who dont want to play FPS games with KB/M have never played shooters with a KB/M.

the control you get from the mouse far outweighs the lack of analogue movement.

Yea even in non FPS

Kenshiro

Kenshiro

JrTapia1991 wrote:I tried out fps on pc with keyboard and mouse and hated it,besides the lack of aim assist,it didn't feel as good as the 360 controller,but I know most pc people seem to love keyboard and mouse

It's all in control. With mouse, you can get the highest and lowest levels of movement.

Say, spinning 360 and adjusting aim by 1 inch, without changing sensitivity. For console sticks, it's too hard to be precise with them, so you have a cap on speed and acceleration. Excellent for spinning around hours on end, but not so good a precise aiming.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

I guess I just don't have the hand eye coordination for it,the mouse is alright but I'm too slow with it like trying to play bf3 with it. I freeze up and don't know what key on the keyboard does what,it's like there's too many of em.


like back on guitar hero,I did ok until you upped the difficulty to require the orange pinky,then I failed every time

Kenshiro

Kenshiro

JrTapia1991 wrote:I guess I just don't have the hand eye coordination for it,the mouse is alright but I'm too slow with it like trying to play bf3 with it. I freeze up and don't know what key on the keyboard does what,it's like there's too many of em.


like back on guitar hero,I did ok until you upped the difficulty to require the orange pinky,then I failed every time

That will take experience.

This will happen with all games, pretty much. The good thing is that most games have rebindable keys, so if the defaults are bad, you can change them to your liking.

MADEWITHROBOTS

MADEWITHROBOTS

Sym wrote:
MADEWITHROBOTS wrote:
Sym wrote:"Nobody wants to play FPS with a M/KB anymore"

WTF?

Morons...

Eh..that's not what they said. It still seems an arrogant statement, but I think RPS has taken what they said completely out of context.

Of course I was summarizing, but this is the exact quote.

"We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo ’cause nobody wants to."

How else can you interpret that?

Wow, no. This is the exact quote:

"We did a bunch of ambitious things on Halo deliberately to reach out to people. We limited players to two weapons, we gave them recharging health, we automatically saved and restored the game—almost heretical things to first-person shooters at the time. We made the game run without a mouse and keyboard. And now nobody plays shooters the way they used to play them before Halo 'cause nobody wants to."

You need to include the whole thing if you want it to be viewed in context.

While you can interpret it in the way you have, you can just as easily interpret it as him referring to the fps design changes when saying no-one wants to play shooters the way they were before - ie. everyone now wants/expects recharging health, limited loadouts etc. etc.....and he has a point.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinion and if you want to see it as a slight on kb/m, then that's fine. But as far as I'm concerned it's sloppy journalism on RPS's part - even Kotaku managed to remain objective (admittedly after having it pointed out to them - not by me, I might add!):

http://kotaku.com/5984914/destiny-dev-says-nobody-plays-shooters-the-way-they-used-to

As for this.....

The Adli Corporation wrote:i'd wager that people who dont want to play FPS games with KB/M have never played shooters with a KB/M.

Also wow, also no. I think you'd be surprised.

Personally, I grew up with fps on kb/m - Doom, Doom II, Quake, Deus Ex, Half-Life etc. etc. I still preferred kb/m to the N64 and GameCube pads, original Xbox was 50/50 but the 360 pad is easily my preference.

I can see that both control methods have their pros and cons, and I can appreciate that the mouse offers a mechanical advantage, but I much prefer a pad for a few reasons and I think you'd find that a great many other people do too. There's no right or wring answer here, it's all personal preference, but both systems are good.

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

KB/M is something I have 0 interest in. I just can't see games feeling and playing the same way without a controller.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

besides really hurting and cramping my hands up after a little while, I don't think I'll ever like m/kb over controller. Maybe mouse,but not the actual keyboard....I always press the wring thing

The Adli Corporation

The Adli Corporation

i will admit that JC2 is much better on a gamepad. my first attempt at driving a motorcycle at full speed taught me that KBM isn't great for driving Razz

i drive like a felon on the console JC2 just fine though, love dem stunt driver points Smile its why i got a 360 gamepad for windows.

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

On topic. I'm pretty interested in Bungies new forray into gaming. Looks interesting, and I have faith Bungie can make a quality products

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

Wow Sym you really turned into a PC elitist and honestly your points come across as arrogant my man. I've played KB/M in the past but I still prefer to sit on my couch and play my 360 with my controller. I have FUN with it and ENJOY it. Keywords there. I'm sure I could scrounge up the cash to buy a PC and play whatever on it but I just don;t want to. For me I don;t want to sit in front of a PC at home. I plan on buying consoles and sticking to that format for awhile.

Metalzoic

Metalzoic

From reading the article it doesn't look to me like they were even really referring to KB/Mouse specifically.

However I have logged hundreds of jillions of hours using kb/m back when I PC gamed and I do not miss it at all. In fact if I ever started PC gaming again unless it was a point-n-click style game I'd prefer to avoid it if I could.

Pariah

Pariah

chipping in for my part:

KB/M are very very god, but they're an acquired taste. Jr's point about preference is basically it, you either like it or don't. I personally like it for shooters, since that type of interface works well for me, but for Hawx and driving games, I'm using my 360 controller.

Jr, what you said about freezing up and not knowing what to do in a shooter...relax bro, it's just practice. I've been casually gaming on PC for years, only started intensely in the last few months, and I have very little in comparison to an experienced player. It takes a lot of getting used to, over time it'll begin to feel natural (to the point where if you're like me, your default finger position will become WASD, no matter what program you're actually running).

Chewy

Chewy

Is there an actual page with what that quote from Bungie was responding to? I think it is being taken out of context given their previous statements.

If it is an excuse to not make it for PC, it is indeed total BS. A PC game doesn't have to even have KB+M support if they don't want it to, which I wouldn't mind. As long as everyone else was restricted to that. Most of the games I play on PC I don't use keyboard and mouse, I use a 360 controller. I really only use a keyboard and mouse for first person games.



Green bean Specialist

Green bean Specialist

Destiny WIll Not be Released in 2013

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/18/bungies-destiny-not-coming-in-2013

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Guest

DRGN LRD 1213 wrote:Wow Sym you really turned into a PC elitist and honestly your points come across as arrogant my man. I've played KB/M in the past but I still prefer to sit on my couch and play my 360 with my controller. I have FUN with it and ENJOY it. Keywords there. I'm sure I could scrounge up the cash to buy a PC and play whatever on it but I just don;t want to. For me I don;t want to sit in front of a PC at home. I plan on buying consoles and sticking to that format for awhile.

Haha whatever

Arrogant?

In what way?

Just because a dev comes up with a BS excuse to not port a good looking game to my platform of choice?

You guys are WAYYYY to sensitive.

Some of you guys are so thick headed about your consoles that its mingblowing to me. Just because I prefer PC and just ABOUT EVERY FUCKING thing about it does not make me an elitist. I dont post on here" Garrr PC IS DA BEST CONSOLES SUCKS GARRRRR". I have never once done that.

Honestly I think some of you guys ARE WAY too sensitive to anything negative about your consoles. Somebody says they prefer M/KB for FPS, you label them an elitist. Nice logic. Seriously. It really does come across as insecurities to me.

I prefer PC? So what? How does the effect you?

I dont try to convert any of you guys, never have......but keep calling me an elitist, whatever makes you happy.



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Also please show me where I dissed a controller?

Oh that's right you cant, because I didn't.

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

Sym wrote:Also please show me where I dissed a controller?

Oh that's right you cant, because I didn't.

Is this also directed at me? I didn't say you dissed a controller. Also you should know I am far from sensitive. I honestly don't really give a shit what game comes out for what or what people prefer but your comments just seemed a little extreme to me from what I remember of you before maybe. I don;t know man, Your all tense and shit or something.

Plus I think your a huge dick for leaving consoles on me chickerfucker! I am kidding btw

Guest


Guest

Chewy wrote:Is there an actual page with what that quote from Bungie was responding to? I think it is being taken out of context given their previous statements.

If it is an excuse to not make it for PC, it is indeed total BS. A PC game doesn't have to even have KB+M support if they don't want it to, which I wouldn't mind. As long as everyone else was restricted to that. Most of the games I play on PC I don't use keyboard and mouse, I use a 360 controller. I really only use a keyboard and mouse for first person games.




Read the RPS article I linked

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DRGN LRD 1213 wrote:
Sym wrote:Also please show me where I dissed a controller?

Oh that's right you cant, because I didn't.

Is this also directed at me? I didn't say you dissed a controller. Also you should know I am far from sensitive. I honestly don't really give a shit what game comes out for what or what people prefer but your comments just seemed a little extreme to me from what I remember of you before maybe. I don;t know man, Your all tense and shit or something.

Plus I think your a huge dick for leaving consoles on me chickerfucker! I am kidding btw


Im not tense at all.

I just get tired of being labeled an elitist on here by you guys because I prefer the platform.

Nothing in this thread was arrogant or elitist. Please describe to me how what I said was arrogant. Im genuinely curious.

Guest


Guest

Look Im not trying to be a dick here

This genuinely bothers me

And Id like to know what I say thats so Elitist

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

Sym wrote:
DRGN LRD 1213 wrote:
Sym wrote:Also please show me where I dissed a controller?

Oh that's right you cant, because I didn't.

Is this also directed at me? I didn't say you dissed a controller. Also you should know I am far from sensitive. I honestly don't really give a shit what game comes out for what or what people prefer but your comments just seemed a little extreme to me from what I remember of you before maybe. I don;t know man, Your all tense and shit or something.

Plus I think your a huge dick for leaving consoles on me chickerfucker! I am kidding btw


Im not tense at all.

I just get tired of being labeled an elitist on here by you guys because I prefer the platform.

Nothing in this thread was arrogant or elitist. Please describe to me how what I said was arrogant. Im genuinely curious.

I don't maybe I just read it wring. Your use of moron, keyboard mouse being better, get used to it all just sounded elitist and shit. I've read other topics which I don't care to go dig up really that have sounded the same. Its all good you enjoy PC, lovely. Maybe its just me being an ass then. Want a hug or something PC boy?

Guest


Guest

DRGN LRD 1213 wrote:
Sym wrote:
DRGN LRD 1213 wrote:
Sym wrote:Also please show me where I dissed a controller?

Oh that's right you cant, because I didn't.

Is this also directed at me? I didn't say you dissed a controller. Also you should know I am far from sensitive. I honestly don't really give a shit what game comes out for what or what people prefer but your comments just seemed a little extreme to me from what I remember of you before maybe. I don;t know man, Your all tense and shit or something.

Plus I think your a huge dick for leaving consoles on me chickerfucker! I am kidding btw


Im not tense at all.

I just get tired of being labeled an elitist on here by you guys because I prefer the platform.

Nothing in this thread was arrogant or elitist. Please describe to me how what I said was arrogant. Im genuinely curious.

I don't maybe I just read it wring. Your use of moron, keyboard mouse being better, get used to it all just sounded elitist and shit. I've read other topics which I don't care to go dig up really that have sounded the same. Its all good you enjoy PC, lovely. Maybe its just me being an ass then. Want a hug or something PC boy?

My use of moron was directed at Bungie for saying( or sounding like.....) nobody wants to play FPS with M/KB anymore.

That is asinine. Moronic, incorrect etc....

grader

grader

This game looks very interesting,very cool.

DRGN LRD 1213

DRGN LRD 1213

Sym wrote:
DRGN LRD 1213 wrote:
Sym wrote:
DRGN LRD 1213 wrote:
Sym wrote:Also please show me where I dissed a controller?

Oh that's right you cant, because I didn't.

Is this also directed at me? I didn't say you dissed a controller. Also you should know I am far from sensitive. I honestly don't really give a shit what game comes out for what or what people prefer but your comments just seemed a little extreme to me from what I remember of you before maybe. I don;t know man, Your all tense and shit or something.

Plus I think your a huge dick for leaving consoles on me chickerfucker! I am kidding btw


Im not tense at all.

I just get tired of being labeled an elitist on here by you guys because I prefer the platform.

Nothing in this thread was arrogant or elitist. Please describe to me how what I said was arrogant. Im genuinely curious.

I don't maybe I just read it wring. Your use of moron, keyboard mouse being better, get used to it all just sounded elitist and shit. I've read other topics which I don't care to go dig up really that have sounded the same. Its all good you enjoy PC, lovely. Maybe its just me being an ass then. Want a hug or something PC boy?

My use of moron was directed at Bungie for saying( or sounding like.....) nobody wants to play FPS with M/KB anymore.

That is asinine. Moronic, incorrect etc....


I don't know man. Just how I read it. Just saying that's how it comes across and if others think the same I don't know what to say. I come across as an ass but I embrace it. So..... yea.

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Guest

Well I dont know what to say

If you or others cant see how insane that comment is then I dont know what to tell you either

Chewy

Chewy

Sym wrote:
Chewy wrote:Is there an actual page with what that quote from Bungie was responding to? I think it is being taken out of context given their previous statements.

If it is an excuse to not make it for PC, it is indeed total BS. A PC game doesn't have to even have KB+M support if they don't want it to, which I wouldn't mind. As long as everyone else was restricted to that. Most of the games I play on PC I don't use keyboard and mouse, I use a 360 controller. I really only use a keyboard and mouse for first person games.




Read the RPS article I linked

That's just an article about an article. The article it was about doesn't say what the quote was responding to, or the context that it was made from.

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Guest

Chewy wrote:
Sym wrote:
Chewy wrote:Is there an actual page with what that quote from Bungie was responding to? I think it is being taken out of context given their previous statements.

If it is an excuse to not make it for PC, it is indeed total BS. A PC game doesn't have to even have KB+M support if they don't want it to, which I wouldn't mind. As long as everyone else was restricted to that. Most of the games I play on PC I don't use keyboard and mouse, I use a 360 controller. I really only use a keyboard and mouse for first person games.




Read the RPS article I linked

That's just an article about an article. The article it was about doesn't say what the quote was responding to, or the context that it was made from.

Oh.....let me see if I can find it....

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Guest

http://www.destructoid.com/bungie-says-nobody-plays-shooters-with-a-mouse-keyboard-245428.phtml

Seems this is the original article

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Guest

grader wrote:This game looks very interesting,very cool.

Indeed

Which is why Im annoyed its console only

Evil or Very Mad

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

Sym wrote:
grader wrote:This game looks very interesting,very cool.

Indeed

Which is why Im annoyed its console only

Evil or Very Mad

Console master race!! *runs out of SeC*

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Guest

Haha

RUN FAST MY FRIEND!!!!!!!!!

I just dont see why this game needs to be a console exclusive.

Then the devs comment just leaves me scratching my head. Either they were slamming m/kb, OR they really think Halo is the best game ever and that it changed everything in FPS. I dont know....

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http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/02/18/mouse-keyboard-still-a-major-player-in-fps-market/#more-142705

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