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So thinking of applying to a college or something.

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Pariah
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Ars Diaboli
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Not to get a degree or anything, cause I just don't see me in another 4 years of school I couldn't handle it.

But to get a license or something for welding.

I know there is a huge shortage of welders right now, and that can make you bank. So thinking about it.

MEGA MILK

MEGA MILK

The Air Force has been pretty neat so far.

Just sayin'.

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Guest

Gotta go to school if you want to have money in this economy

Dropped Da Soap

Dropped Da Soap

Thats the thing Sym, I don't think I need to.

I honestly don't have any special talents that would get me a great job as im not good at anything. But my sisters Bestfriend of 16 years, whom I have known for 16 years. Is doing his best to get me a job at the concrete/steel factory he works at.

Just starting off I would be making 16.60 and getting a solid Monday-Friday job, 7 am to 4pm, and garunteed overtime.

Just starting off according to him, I could bring almost 3500-4000 a month. Since even new hires end up getting almost 10 hours of overtime if they want it.

And they have excellent positions for those who do know how to weld. So I could easily earn more.

Considering I make less then 950 a month now working 40 hours, I think for a second job thats a decent amount of money.

And Milk, when did you join Military?

MEGA MILK

MEGA MILK

The Question wrote:Thats the thing Sym, I don't think I need to.

I honestly don't have any special talents that would get me a great job as im not good at anything. But my sisters Bestfriend of 16 years, whom I have known for 16 years. Is doing his best to get me a job at the concrete/steel factory he works at.

Just starting off I would be making 16.60 and getting a solid Monday-Friday job, 7 am to 4pm, and garunteed overtime.

Just starting off according to him, I could bring almost 3500-4000 a month. Since even new hires end up getting almost 10 hours of overtime if they want it.

And they have excellent positions for those who do know how to weld. So I could easily earn more.

Considering I make less then 950 a month now working 40 hours, I think for a second job thats a decent amount of money.

And Milk, when did you join Military?

I left for basic training March 6th, graduated from that May 3rd. Currently at my first tech school, aircrew fundamentals. Training to be an airborne linguist.

Ante

Ante

he's learning how to talk to planes

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The Question wrote:Thats the thing Sym, I don't think I need to.

I honestly don't have any special talents that would get me a great job as im not good at anything. But my sisters Bestfriend of 16 years, whom I have known for 16 years. Is doing his best to get me a job at the concrete/steel factory he works at.

Just starting off I would be making 16.60 and getting a solid Monday-Friday job, 7 am to 4pm, and garunteed overtime.

Just starting off according to him, I could bring almost 3500-4000 a month. Since even new hires end up getting almost 10 hours of overtime if they want it.

And they have excellent positions for those who do know how to weld. So I could easily earn more.

Considering I make less then 950 a month now working 40 hours, I think for a second job thats a decent amount of money.

And Milk, when did you join Military?

4k a month isnt that good man

Take the job, and still go to school.

Im 27 and just starting

MEGA MILK

MEGA MILK

Ante wrote:he's learning how to talk to planes

Not talk, listen. And not to planes. Hoping for Koreans, or Chinese.

Ars Diaboli

Ars Diaboli

Whoah, really? That's pretty damn good. At least if I convert it to my currency. You guys have it real good over there. For example, I have a friend that is an electrical engineer or something (hard shit), and has a shit job because my country sucks that much.

Or me, I'm pretty confident in my software development skills, but the initial payment for someone like me over here is about $1,200-$1,400 per month, once I make the conversion to dollars. For a comparison, I could get about $50,000+ per year if I worked on the U.S, at least according to some info I found. And that's just when starting out.

This is depressing. Maybe we just have different living expenses and stuff (except the fucking electronics ;_; ) is more expensive in the U.S. <_<

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Guest

4k a month rolls out to 48k a year.

Not very good. at all.

Ante

Ante

48k a year is more than enough to live comfortably. at least for me it would be.

Ars Diaboli

Ars Diaboli

How much do you need over there to live? For example, my father is a doctor and makes about $6,000 - $6,500 per month, and that's pretty damn good over here for a single person. Like, stupidly good.

In my case, the 50,000+ is starting out, and you can eventually get 70,000-100,000. Depending on your position.

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Sym wrote:4k a month rolls out to 48k a year.

Not very good. at all.


I currently make under 950 a month bro.
Almost 4k is a hell of a lot more, and for a second job ever, not too shabby.

Plus I don't have a girlfriend, have no intention of starting a family, and have no prior bills other then Insurance for my truck.

I can easily find a decent arpartment for 1200 bucks a month plus a few hundred extra for internet and utilities, and the fact my friend would move in with me and split the rent.
I think 4k is a decent amount.

And thats starting, not counting any future promotions and whatnot.

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Guest

I need to make 100k a year to live comfortably, take care of a family AND be able to save for retirement.

Making 48k a year leaves nothing extra, and gives you no room for a retirement fund.

Now Ive never made close to that, and probably never will. It just goes to show how fucked up this world is. 1% of the people hold all the money....

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Sorry this is a sore sore subject for me

chunckylover53



48k is fine for one person.

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The Question wrote:
Sym wrote:4k a month rolls out to 48k a year.

Not very good. at all.


I currently make under 950 a month bro.
Almost 4k is a hell of a lot more, and for a second job ever, not too shabby.

Plus I don't have a girlfriend, have no intention of starting a family, and have no prior bills other then Insurance for my truck.

I can easily find a decent arpartment for 1200 bucks a month plus a few hundred extra for internet and utilities, and the fact my friend would move in with me and split the rent.
I think 4k is a decent amount.

And thats starting, not counting any future promotions and whatnot.

Its good pay for a non college educated job

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Guest

48k is really very little money

When you look at global economics and realize just how much money is out there, its nothing.

The rich continue to fuck us all over

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Guest

I thought I didnt need an education either when I was 18-22

Yea that was a huge mistake.

I had a good job with great work history.

Now Im 27, unemployed, poor and have little future outside of getting my education.

Im just saying

Dropped Da Soap

Dropped Da Soap

Oh I agree.

Other then retirment, 4k is a decent amount of money.

But I also hope to enroll or enlist in the Police Dept after im 21.
Instead of around 44=48k a year, I would be getting close to, or over 52k a year. Plus they have better retirement plans then the factory would give.

Ars Diaboli

Ars Diaboli

The expenses are very different in the U.S. and Mexico if that's the case. It was kinda obvious I guess, but I didn't think it was THAT different. My father supported a family of 5 with his job alone, getting less than the 100k per year that Sym wants. And we're considered middle-high class, we've gone to Europe multiple times, etc. And I'm including his retirement.

I would be dancing naked if I could get 50,000 per year as soon as I start working in a few months. I'm on the same spot as Soap, no intention of starting a family, nor getting a girlfriend. I would have a fuckton of money saved up since I'm not particularly wasteful.

Also, Sym, the rich people are rich for a reason. Many just are rich because their daddies paved them their positions, but there are many that worked their asses to get where they are. I'm working on a very nice project with a couple of buddies, and it's really promising. If we play our cards right, I could be rich and that's only because we've worked hard, very hard and we still have a long way to go. If you laze around and hope to have everything handed to you on a silver platter, well... that ain't gonna work, not where I live at least. Now, if we're talking about politicians, they should just die in a fire.

Dropped Da Soap

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MAn im one of those guys who could outwork anyone any day of the week doing the hardest shit out there. Yet people like politicians and lawyers make far more for far less.

Stupid is what it is. And I feel like Sym does. I despise the rich.

Ars Diaboli

Ars Diaboli

I despise the rich that are rich while being useless cunts. Politicians here are a prime example. Half the fucking country starving, druglords fucking everyone in the ass, and these bitches get free iPads (about 300 at least) while half of them don't know a computer from their anus.

But I know that there are plenty that got their money because they are qualified to get it themselves. They could give away most of their money, and the people that got it would be poor in a year again, and they rich. It's not just working hard. A janitor can work hard. It's getting a good idea, it's having initiative, learning, wanting to better yourself, being an entreprenur. Those are the kinds of people that end up being rich.



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Look Im not saying this to pee on every-bodies Cheerios

But Im rather bitter about the whole thing

In my old job before I was ran over by Druno O I was pulling 40k a year, without a college education. It was nice to be able to pay my bills yea, but really 40k runs out super fast.

Now im 27, unemployed and hardly scraping by. What Im trying to say is without an education the same thing can happen to anybody. I caught a bad break yes, but life happens to everybody eventually. And good jobs for people without college education are increasingly rare

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Ars Diaboli wrote:I despise the rich that are rich while being useless cunts. Politicians here are a prime example. Half the fucking country starving, druglords fucking everyone in the ass, and these bitches get free iPads (about 300 at least) while half of them don't know a computer from their anus.

But I know that there are plenty that got their money because they are qualified to get it themselves. They could give away most of their money, and the people that got it would be poor in a year again, and they rich.

Most rich people ARE worthless scumbags. And yes some have worked very hard for the money they have. But for very one that has, there are 2 or 3 who have not.

As big of a sports fan as I am, I think the players salaries are disgusting. Teachers in America are lucky to pull 50k....Police Officers are lucky to make 60 k etc...

its fucked up. Most avaliable jobs in my state pay Min wage. 8. 9motherfucking5 an hour. Nobody can live off that...its done by design.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

48k a year is fuckin rich compared to what I've lived with lol....I come from a family where my mom never did anything and my dad just digs ditches/day laborer >__>


min wage is a joke here, 7.25,not enough to live on either.


I'd say try to get the welder license dude


some just aren't meant or can't take college, I really don't think I could ever do it for years,but something like a license would be cool. Read alot of the "trade" jobs need people. Just because there's a rinky dink nursing home here or two everybody and their mother instilled it in everybodys brain "just go to the community college to be a nurses aid" then that shit got overflooded lol.


depends on the area too,tx has the lowest cost of living in the whole country. Not sure if that's due to them knowing so many low income people live here or what Razz

Pariah

Pariah

Sym, I think the point Soap is making is that for a second job, that is a damn good one. And he's absolutely right. 4k supplement income is absolute heaven when you're single and don't waste much. But you're right in that education is the future, and that to be competitive nowadays, you HAVE to have very solid schooling.

Ars, there are a few key differences in our societies. Your dad was able to support himself and your entire family (and just off topic that sounds like a really cool story to share) off of his salary, and I have no doubt that it was great for y'all. In serbia, it's the same. If you're earning 4000 USD per month, that's a bit over a third of a mill in serbia. That is a metric fuckton of money over there. It's not so much that it's a different standard of living, but the price adjustment is the issue. Honestly, if you factor it in, it's more expensive to live in America. It just is. To show an example: it costs me 200 serbian dinars to go see a movie in Belgrade. That's about 2.40$. It costs me another 50 RSD (republic of serbia dinar) for popcorn, maybe 100 for a drink. All totalled, for three and a half bucks I'm going to the movies. It's like that across the board, save for higher-end luxury imports.

In America, everything costs money. Fucking everything. And to truly live the "ideal american life" (married, house in the suburbs, 2.3 kids, 2 cars, 401k, all that BS) you need to get an education.




Oh, and as Sym mentioned, a vast majority of the (implicit: American) rich are absolute crooks. Fixing contracts, lobbying, backdoor dealing, all of this shit is standard practice. It's true, we have some hardworking ultra rich people, but the vast majority did it by stepping on the classes below them and sucking them dry for every last dime.

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This whole topic makes me sad

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

Sym wrote:This whole topic makes me sad

Ars Diaboli

Ars Diaboli

Gotta agree there. It's similar in my country. Football players get paid a retarded amount of money, and from what I've seen, most are your everyday stupid jock that has a hard enough time doing math (hyperbole, but they're fucking dumb). Meanwhile, scientists don't really get much compared to what someone of with their smarts and knowledge should. My country is one of the main "brain exporters" in the world, because the conditions to work here are terrible, and people that are very well prepared just leave the country to get better oportunities. Even worse, if you're successful enough, you'll probably have a visit from some criminals to either kidnap you, or extort you. I hate this place, and I'll be getting out of here as soon as I can.

Also, Pariah wtf, I thought you were from the U.S.?!

The more you know!

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

Embarassed seems bad there,my dad hasn't even been in a few years because he said the drug war got so bad

Zillah

Zillah

Making 48k a year at 20 y/o is pulling far above the average for your age group. Sure its not much compared to millionaires out there making serious bank, but if you can live happily off of what you're making, I don't see why it should matter. At the same time, continuing your education and racking up credit hours towards some sort of degree will give you more options down the road, if that means getting a more qualified position at the construction place, or working for a bigger salary somewhere else. I say take the job, live your life on that, but dont become complacent, keep striving for something better through education. Your job there won't be permanent, you want to have comfortable options in the future.

HydrasBreath ♜

HydrasBreath ♜

< currently makes 17k a year...feels bad man.

I'm going to be looking at getting a cello teaching job in a few months. The music store I frequent (and the music school attached to it) sort of offered me a job already so I'll look into it more seriously in a few months. If they are desperate enough to take me without any degree or credentials and I'd get enough students to do it full time I'll probably go for it. There is basically no one who teaches cello in my city so if I there's enough demand I can hopefully quit my crap grocery store job.

I'd go from 12$/h to 40-50$/h

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

Remember, going to college and getting a degree doesn't garuntee you squat. The GF just graduated but the only jobs she has seen so far pay less than my job working a NAPA store.

I know some people who weld and make a very good living, like 80k per year, so I think that is a good idea Soap.

HydrasBreath ♜

HydrasBreath ♜

Dr. Spaceman wrote:Remember, going to college and getting a degree doesn't garuntee you squat. The GF just graduated but the only jobs she has seen so far pay less than my job working a NAPA store.

I know some people who weld and make a very good living, like 80k per year, so I think that is a good idea Soap.

Yeah true that. Because of the "you have to go to university to get a good job" mentally the workforce is flooded with graduates each year and not all of them will work in their field of study.

Unless you're top of the class or have connections getting a good job is luck of the draw alot of the time.

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Not really

Even having an associates helps alot in order to get a good job

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Honestly, I couldn't find a job with my bachelor's. I'm working on my MBA in Marketing because I can get a really good job with that and there is a high demand for it, but a degree doesn't guarantee you crap anymore. Obviously depends on the field, but there are no guarantees. Welding is a good job and steady money.

Also, what the hell do ya'll do with your money!? I make 30k a year and we live very comfortably on that. If I could pull 40-50k I'd be thrilled.

Pariah

Pariah

Ars Diaboli wrote:
Also, Pariah wtf, I thought you were from the U.S.?!

The more you know!

Haha, almost. I live in the US, chillin next to the Great Lakes. But I was born in what was a post-communist Yugoslavia, and some of my earliest memories are the bombings during the NATO strikes. Frankly, I'm really lucky that my dad got us out of the country when he did. We left so that he could go to a veterinary institute in France and finally get his PhD (he had a school planned in the Netherlands, but they kicked him out when Serbia became europe's monster of the year). We came to the US when I was 5, and I've lived most of my life here.

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Guest

You may live comfortably on 30k right now, but good luck saving for retirement with that money.

Our generation is fucked pretty much. There will be no social security, so when you get old you better have a fat savings or you might as well put a gun in your mouth.

Ron Swanson

Ron Swanson

Sym wrote:You may live comfortably on 30k right now, but good luck saving for retirement with that money.

Our generation is fucked pretty much. There will be no social security, so when you get old you better have a fat savings or you might as well put a gun in your mouth.

You know who would be great at fixing that problem?

Future Terry and Future Sym. Those guys are great at fixing my problems Razz

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Future Mrs. Terry won the lottery so I don't have to worry about that. Hahaha.

No, I know what you mean. But I won't make 30k forever so I'm okay with it now! And I do have a degree so I guess my point that a degree doesn't get you much is null and void, haha. More that you should choose very wisely what you want to invest that much time and money into.

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Im very negative on this subject as its a very sore spot for me

Yo guys know what has happened to me in the past, and my current situation is very dire. I also have an associates and find it doesnt matter much. My town is giving jobs to HS kids over people like me......Im about 2 months away from being homeless right now. Half the jobs in my town FUCKING REQUIRE you to be bilingual.....wtf is that shit?

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Honestly, when I first started looking for a job down here, I couldn't find a thing. I'm lucky to have found what I did. I'm generally "overqualified" for everything or I don't have a very specific skill set for a job. And yeah, they want everyone to be bilingual here too. It sucks.

chunckylover53



Mrs. Terry of Hat wrote:Honestly, I couldn't find a job with my bachelor's. I'm working on my MBA in Marketing because I can get a really good job with that and there is a high demand for it, but a degree doesn't guarantee you crap anymore. Obviously depends on the field, but there are no guarantees. Welding is a good job and steady money.

Also, what the hell do ya'll do with your money!? I make 30k a year and we live very comfortably on that. If I could pull 40-50k I'd be thrilled.

Ha, my girlfriend is also working on her MBA in marketing. She already makes a good amount of money though.. Lucky >.<

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Mrs. Terry of Hat

Lucky duck...what does she do?

I've been trying to get into a marketing company down here but I'm just waiting until I'm done with my MBA at this point because it will be much easier!

chunckylover53



She works in like this cable call center place, handles the billing and other problems and such she says it's pretty stressful and makes it so you almost never want to be on a phone.

I've never asked her how much she makes because i would just feel awkward as hell, but she has a lot of nice stuff and her own house.

JrTapia1991

JrTapia1991

we can live under this bridge by walmart sym Razz

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