My fellow Americans

Wacco wrote:Please tell me this isn't going to be an "American isn't a race" debate

Wacco wrote:People can agree with other sides. I consider myself a conservative and generally lean Republican, but I think global warming is a problem, am fine with gay marriage, and think we should tax the hell out of the rich. I'm with Cram on that one. That's what pisses me off about the Northwest though. Everyone here claims to be the biggest liberals, but when an initiative that would tax anyone who makes more than 250k a year, and only what they make PAST 250k, came up, NOBODY passes it. It was being supported by Bill Gates Sr., but all the other greedy, rich hippies that live here and claim to be so damn liberal and voted for Obama because they wanted to tax the wealthiest in America wouldn't vote for it.

The Imp wrote:Regardless of whether or not global warming is a threat, we are reaching a turning point, and we're no longer going to be able to continue with our current standard of living. The earth's population will soon be unsustainable. Human beings will require more resources than the earth can provide. Peak oil. Rising food prices. We're screwed if we think that this paradigm of infinite growth can continue.

Ante wrote:

The Imp wrote:Regardless of whether or not global warming is a threat, we are reaching a turning point, and we're no longer going to be able to continue with our current standard of living. The earth's population will soon be unsustainable. Human beings will require more resources than the earth can provide. Peak oil. Rising food prices. We're screwed if we think that this paradigm of infinite growth can continue.

We probably shouldn't vilify people like Norman Borlaug, then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug

The Imp wrote:

Ante wrote:

The Imp wrote:Regardless of whether or not global warming is a threat, we are reaching a turning point, and we're no longer going to be able to continue with our current standard of living. The earth's population will soon be unsustainable. Human beings will require more resources than the earth can provide. Peak oil. Rising food prices. We're screwed if we think that this paradigm of infinite growth can continue.

We probably shouldn't vilify people like Norman Borlaug, then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug

Are you implying that I have?

The Imp wrote:*snip*

Ante wrote:The Earth goes through natural heating and cooling cycles. It's been this way since it first formed. There is no such thing as global warming.

Now famine, resource depletion, war, terror, disease, those are real problems.


This whole "going green" thing is just exorbitantly expensive and does little to nothing to help the environment and in some cases causes even more damage.



WHY THE FUCK DID I POST THIS. Is there any way to set a thread to ignore?

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:

Ante wrote:The Earth goes through natural heating and cooling cycles. It's been this way since it first formed. There is no such thing as global warming.

Now famine, resource depletion, war, terror, disease, those are real problems.


This whole "going green" thing is just exorbitantly expensive and does little to nothing to help the environment and in some cases causes even more damage.



WHY THE FUCK DID I POST THIS. Is there any way to set a thread to ignore?

Pretty much this. However, I think that the greatest thing that could happen to the Earth, would be a solar flare incinerating everything off of it, once and for all. It would solve every problem that this world has, lol.

Sinners Like You wrote:In my opinion, and only in my opinion, America has gotten lazier. I mean, during the Great Depression and WWII, people were scrambling to help their country. Now we sit on the couch and watch reruns of "Jersey Shore" and we watch Lindsay Lohan throw up again and we watch LeBron mumble on for an hour before finally choosing an NBA team...

It's no wonder the world seems to hate/mock us. We had exchange students last year, and their first classification of America was a country full of fat and lazy people.

Oh, and for global warming, I think that shit is real. That's all I'm saying really.

Ante wrote:

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:

Ante wrote:The Earth goes through natural heating and cooling cycles. It's been this way since it first formed. There is no such thing as global warming.

Now famine, resource depletion, war, terror, disease, those are real problems.


This whole "going green" thing is just exorbitantly expensive and does little to nothing to help the environment and in some cases causes even more damage.



WHY THE FUCK DID I POST THIS. Is there any way to set a thread to ignore?

Pretty much this. However, I think that the greatest thing that could happen to the Earth, would be a solar flare incinerating everything off of it, once and for all. It would solve every problem that this world has, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray_burst



EDIT: TL;DR, one of these hitting Earth would be like an Ion Cannon blast that encompasses the entirety of the planet.

Ducksaws wrote:The temperatures we're looking at now are a result of pollution from the 50's. So basically the future generations are already fucked for when the 70's pollution starts taking affect. I'm just gonna live it up because the world is too much of a shit hole to ever recover.

Ante wrote:The Earth goes through natural heating and cooling cycles. It's been this way since it first formed. There is no such thing as global warming.

Now famine, resource depletion, war, terror, disease, those are real problems.


This whole "going green" thing is just exorbitantly expensive and does little to nothing to help the environment and in some cases causes even more damage.



WHY THE FUCK DID I POST THIS. Is there any way to set a thread to ignore?

Zillah wrote:This is a much more sudden spike than has ever been seen on Earth. Even when we were coming out of the ice age the planet wasnt warming as fast as it is now. dont think of it as heat, think of it as atmospheric entropy, which leads to more humidity in the air in some places and less in others ---> droughts and floods. 4 years ago, there was an international consortium of climate scientists, geologists, meteorologists, chemists, etc. who all met , and 100% agreed that climate change is a result of there being more CO, CO2, Methane, and other greenhouse gasses in the air. The US is pretty much the last place on the planet where there is a sizable amount of people who dont believe in this science. The US is also the only country in the world where oil companies have been running billion dollar stealth campaigns to spread rumors that climate change is a myth...

so much for me not saying anything.

Symbolic wrote:Good Lord! I didn't mean to open this can of worms ha. For all you living in other countries, just put yourself in our shoes for one minute. What if the whole world bashed your country like they do us, yet 90% of them either already live here, or want to move here to take advantage of the freedoms we have. We suck, and are evil, but the whole world loves our culture(this isnt opinion, its fact) We are the world leaders in just about everything entertainment related(with the possible exception of Japan). It's just bullshit. Especially all the illegals living here, working and not paying any fucking taxes. While us hard working American's(sorry United States residents) get fucked year after year. This simply doesnt happen anywhere else in the world, at least not close to the scale we have here.

Frostbyrn wrote:

Symbolic wrote:Good Lord! I didn't mean to open this can of worms ha. For all you living in other countries, just put yourself in our shoes for one minute. What if the whole world bashed your country like they do us, yet 90% of them either already live here, or want to move here to take advantage of the freedoms we have. We suck, and are evil, but the whole world loves our culture(this isnt opinion, its fact) We are the world leaders in just about everything entertainment related(with the possible exception of Japan). It's just bullshit. Especially all the illegals living here, working and not paying any fucking taxes. While us hard working American's(sorry United States residents) get fucked year after year. This simply doesnt happen anywhere else in the world, at least not close to the scale we have here.

Oh yeah and you guys are really Arrogant

Symbolic wrote:

Frostbyrn wrote:

Symbolic wrote:Good Lord! I didn't mean to open this can of worms ha. For all you living in other countries, just put yourself in our shoes for one minute. What if the whole world bashed your country like they do us, yet 90% of them either already live here, or want to move here to take advantage of the freedoms we have. We suck, and are evil, but the whole world loves our culture(this isnt opinion, its fact) We are the world leaders in just about everything entertainment related(with the possible exception of Japan). It's just bullshit. Especially all the illegals living here, working and not paying any fucking taxes. While us hard working American's(sorry United States residents) get fucked year after year. This simply doesnt happen anywhere else in the world, at least not close to the scale we have here.

Oh yeah and you guys are really Arrogant

Are you saying there is arrogance in my post? Im simply stating facts. You cannot debate anything I posted. Its been a massive problem in our country for far to long.

And to be fair, we are arrogant. But to be honest, were a country founded on freedom. A country was created via revolution. That attitude will always remain. Plus everyone loves to bash our military, but who does the world come crawling to when they need help? Im far from an ignorant American, as you guys should know by know. And it seems the others on this forum are very educated and smart people. Not everyone in our country is lazy and ignorant. Thats just the south


We are far from perfect, but those bashing us, and living in denial of their own countries issues are the ignorant ones. Fact remains, no other country in the world is as welcoming to foreigners as the US. Half our population come from origins other than the UK. But I should just probably shut up now as I can tell this is going nowhere good.

Frostbyrn wrote:

Symbolic wrote:

Frostbyrn wrote:

Symbolic wrote:Good Lord! I didn't mean to open this can of worms ha. For all you living in other countries, just put yourself in our shoes for one minute. What if the whole world bashed your country like they do us, yet 90% of them either already live here, or want to move here to take advantage of the freedoms we have. We suck, and are evil, but the whole world loves our culture(this isnt opinion, its fact) We are the world leaders in just about everything entertainment related(with the possible exception of Japan). It's just bullshit. Especially all the illegals living here, working and not paying any fucking taxes. While us hard working American's(sorry United States residents) get fucked year after year. This simply doesnt happen anywhere else in the world, at least not close to the scale we have here.

Oh yeah and you guys are really Arrogant

Are you saying there is arrogance in my post? Im simply stating facts. You cannot debate anything I posted. Its been a massive problem in our country for far to long.

And to be fair, we are arrogant. But to be honest, were a country founded on freedom. A country was created via revolution. That attitude will always remain. Plus everyone loves to bash our military, but who does the world come crawling to when they need help? Im far from an ignorant American, as you guys should know by know. And it seems the others on this forum are very educated and smart people. Not everyone in our country is lazy and ignorant. Thats just the south


We are far from perfect, but those bashing us, and living in denial of their own countries issues are the ignorant ones. Fact remains, no other country in the world is as welcoming to foreigners as the US. Half our population come from origins other than the UK. But I should just probably shut up now as I can tell this is going nowhere good.

The highlighted green part was what i was talking about,Personally i dont like alot of American Culture,Plus i dont want to move to your country for a couple of reasons excluded everyone here your country seems to have alot of idiots,And for another if a World War breaks out chances are you guys are getting nuked...Alot.

Also the text in Orange,You do realise you just tried to tell that lie to a Kiwi right?I mean more than half our Population isnt European,Were probally the biggest melting pot in the world