Is front grip+silencer really the best combo?

I swear on some guns like the M416 it kills faster with a heavy barrel or with no scope....if I have an acog on it I have hit detection issues/it kills slowly


I've been noticing I get killed by the base and sucky guns alot lately like the pp2000 or regular m16 >___>

I have lots of hit detection issues using acogs on the sniper rifles as well...I'll be shooting center of mass for all 10 rounds only for them to kill me......

people seem to kill me in a split second running around with the PKP Penchang but it kills slow as hell for me,as well as the M249.....how the hell do people run and gun so well with these?

is it really all dependent on connection?Mines 10mb....better than most.I read average in the country is only 3mb so maybe it's EAs servers with wonky hit detections....

I never seem to be able to kill with the M320 but people kill me like it's nothing......

the underslug attachment worthless?

edit,I mostly stick to the F2000,AKs-74u,M27 or RPK....and rarely use sniper as they're useless against vehicles.Team mates never take advantage of soflam or mav

I'm not sure what you mean by kills fast or kills slowly...

isn't the largest time-to-kill difference in the game about 1/10th of a second? If it feels like something is taking longer to kill it must just be because your bullets are missing.

The 320 rocks. I can hit you in the head with it at 100yards. I've just got a good eye for it (did in BC2 as well)

i almost never use the 320, nobody takes away my med packs

I find the M320 great for Metro and Seine Crossing, with all those apartment windows and such.

I dunno, I've been using the AEK with Foregrip and Suppressor, and it's accurate for short-mid range, but horrible at long range unless the target doesn't move. I also only use the burst fire with it, rarely, if ever do I use the other ones.

As for the sights, I only use the RDS type of sights and don't have much trouble. I always kinda sucked with the ACOGs.

Anyway, the game has hit detection issues, can't help it. I've been killed through a wall, poured 10 bullets into an enemy and still have them with 100% when they kill me with 1 bullet (not a headshot). It happens way too often, so I really have a hard time believing that it's just me having shitty accuracy and they been gods. I also have killed guys after they escape my line of sight.

For the LMGs, I have no clue. Their horrible recoil doesn't let me use them that easily, unless I set up a bipod. The MG36 is an exception, and with a bipod has zero recoil.

The 320 is fucking god. In BC2 it was very underpowered in my opinion, but in BF3 it's very good without being overpowered. You may need to practice aiming with it, because of the arc the grenade makes. It's not unusual for me to get double kills with, sometimes even triple. It's very useful if you learn how to use it.

The underslung is pointless. It just makes you switch quicker to the M320 or M26 if you have it equipped in your AR.

1fnbighen wrote:i almost never use the 320, nobody takes away my med packs

Ha! I'm the opposite I always have some form of the 320. Always underbarrel on the guns it works on.

Last night I finally tried the M27 with front grip and silencer (had always used laser) and,it was a miracle!I could finally get hit markers and kill people with the damn thing.

I was doing pretty decent with the M16A3 with holo sight,front grip and silencer as well.Didn't kill as fast as I'm used to with the F2000 or Famas but decent.I actually killed a couple MAVs flying around using the AK74 since it shoots so slow,but I kept getting outgunned when trying to kill people

I guess what I was trying to say is,I mostly only do good with guns that shoot fast,that kill people fast.The PKP,unless I'm set up with the bipod,just gets me killed mostly.I swear I don't know how people run and gun with that thing or the M249....they just kill soooooo slow for me it's not ever worth it.

I figured the silencer actually made guns weaker,but I see people running and gunning with the PKP and M249 with silencers on too and they kill me in a damn split second >___>


yeah man I blame the EA servers lol and people with bad connections.Isn't BF3 supposed to have dedicated servers tho?I think Left 4 Dead and BC2 were the few xbox games that had dedicated servers

Maybe if I put a silencer on the snipers they'll start to get better hit markers


I guess,silencer is a must for me to get steady kills...


never used silencer on the AK-74u however,always kobra sight,front grip and laser

eh I mostly suck so bad with iron sights,it's mostly russian holo sight or american holo sight or rarely kobra red dot sight

FYI the M4A1 is a way better carbine than the AKs. I think the AKs is one of the worst carbines in the game.

JrTapia1991 wrote:Last night I finally tried the M27 with front grip and silencer (had always used laser) and,it was a miracle!I could finally get hit markers and kill people with the damn thing.

I was doing pretty decent with the M16A3 with holo sight,front grip and silencer as well.Didn't kill as fast as I'm used to with the F2000 or Famas but decent.I actually killed a couple MAVs flying around using the AK74 since it shoots so slow,but I kept getting outgunned when trying to kill people

I guess what I was trying to say is,I mostly only do good with guns that shoot fast,that kill people fast.The PKP,unless I'm set up with the bipod,just gets me killed mostly.I swear I don't know how people run and gun with that thing or the M249....they just kill soooooo slow for me it's not ever worth it.

I figured the silencer actually made guns weaker,but I see people running and gunning with the PKP and M249 with silencers on too and they kill me in a damn split second >___>


yeah man I blame the EA servers lol and people with bad connections.Isn't BF3 supposed to have dedicated servers tho?I think Left 4 Dead and BC2 were the few xbox games that had dedicated servers

Maybe if I put a silencer on the snipers they'll start to get better hit markers


I guess,silencer is a must for me to get steady kills...


never used silencer on the AK-74u however,always kobra sight,front grip and laser

eh I mostly suck so bad with iron sights,it's mostly russian holo sight or american holo sight or rarely kobra red dot sight

Actually, the PKP kills pretty fast for how fast it fires. It's the fastest killing LMG for most ranges in the game because of that hilarious 34 damage at close range in comparison to the other belt LMGs.

http://symthic.com/?s=bf3&sb=timetokill

Wait... no. It beats all the other LMGs except the M27, M249 and M240, and only at long range past 60 meters.

It fires slow but does a lot of damage, kicks like a mule but has low spread and stops kicking eventually while full auto.

JrTapia1991 wrote:yeah man I blame the EA servers lol and people with bad connections.Isn't BF3 supposed to have dedicated servers tho?I think Left 4 Dead and BC2 were the few xbox games that had dedicated servers

I think that the game uses client-side hit-detection. Either that or has some heavy lag compensation shit going on. Either way, that's one of the problems. That's why sometimes you get killed by someone that can't see you anymore.

Ars Diaboli wrote:

JrTapia1991 wrote:yeah man I blame the EA servers lol and people with bad connections.Isn't BF3 supposed to have dedicated servers tho?I think Left 4 Dead and BC2 were the few xbox games that had dedicated servers

I think that the game uses client-side hit-detection. Either that or has some heavy lag compensation shit going on. Either way, that's one of the problems. That's why sometimes you get killed by someone that can't see you anymore.

It does use client-side hit detection, which is why someone can hit you when according to your screen they shouldn't be able to see you.