So I tried Armored kill for the first time

And it's mind numbingly boring even with 64 players. Honestly, I'd dare say the worst of the Xpacks if I were to go by first impressions. I had more fun with Close Quarters (Which felt like I was playing CoD rather than BF3)

I sure hope the Aftermath and End game maps are better.

AK is boring as hell, sadly.

Aftermath is actually really really fun. i dont see the point in Gun Master, and Scavenger isn't that great either, but the maps themselves are really really nice. it really feels like shit has going south fast, plus there are drainpipes and passages to crawl through. i really love Conquest on the Aftermath maps

i also really like Close Quarters, i have so many Surveillance Ribbons from my TUG-S haha.

I'll have to play on them some time. The problem with AK I think is that despite there being so many players being 32 vs 32, due to the scale of the map and the how there never seems to be enough vehicles to play on them, you feel like a wee tadpole swimming in the sea surrounded by sharks and other monstrous predators.

If there were more players and more vehicles things could get interesting really really fast I think, if not compact the maps down a little (Yeah whining about how the maps too big, I knw rly?!)

I think they went TOO big with AK. If there were places where you could go hull down more and such then it would be cool, but that's simply not how BF tanking functions sadly. Atacama desert from BC2 I think would be more of an ideal size for AK, hell even Harvest day I think would have been good. it's like Op firestorm all over again but with that 16vs16 vibe to it.

i feel like AK is the PC equivalent of Caspian on the consoles. too big for the player count.

Art, are you that Echo person who keeps showing up on my origin notigications? If so, let's play something. I love the Scavenger mode, its so fun.

Yes I'm Echo196, I've never played scavanger before. I typically play Conquest exclusively, though if I have some SEC members I'm willing to play other modes, except for Gun master.

gunmaster isn't too awful, but I agree with the disdain. If you want to play Scavenger sometime, just shoot me a message. If I'm on, I'll basically play anything.

I gave an Aftermath map a try and I must say, I agree with everyone else that it's pretty well balanced. So many angles you never really feel like you're boxed in and cut off because of crappy choke point design. There is almost always an alternative route and plenty of cover to boot.

Playing as a support player though is hard (with a belt fed at least) while running solo. Belt fed machine guns certainly favor a squad talking to each other so that you can lay down suppressing fire and so on, otherwise you're handicapping yourself since 99.99% of the people playing with you don't have a damn clue.

It reminds me why I normally pick the AR-LMG' over the belt fed ones when running solo. My SPM seems to be on the rise at least since I've been tossing ammo out like mad as well as trying to suppress enemy players as much as possible as of late.

Also, is it just me or does it seem the M240B and the PKP are the best in terms of mobility and control-ability among the 7.52 caliber LMG's? The M60 can be a little tough to manage if you need to be semi mobile.

Haven't a clue. I barely play Support. Recon for the Sniping, Medic for the ARs, sometimes Engi to play for my team.

Do you guys actually want to get a squad together sometime and play?

I've been bitten by the bug again as of late, probably due to the fact that I can't afford to go shooting with my AR15 and such not to mention ammo is practically impossible to find right now.

I mainly play as support or recon nowadays, though every once in a while I'll run engineer for the fun of it. Usually I'm forced into the recon role since no one else wants to run it (I play using the semi autos as a DM for the most part)

AK was teh reason I didn't buy Premium, I knew it would be terribly boring, especially on consoles.

I enjoyed CQ, its fast mind numbing fun

I love CQ

Art and I played with remShotz last night, had a good couple rounds.

I don't remember half the controls and how to gauge shit anymore, I've been playing too much Planetside 2. I kept pressing T for third person camera.

I never liked AK at all

The AK maps are good on PC in TDM

They are sectioned off, so they are alot smaller.

Good sniper battle maps