Tons of new BF4 info

Ante wrote:That armor perk though. ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Ante wrote:any bullet damage modifiers are a cause for concern imo.

The morons at DICE wrote:We’re increasing the suppression effect of Light Machine Guns, exclusive to the Support kit, while other weapons are less suppressive.

Less of a moron at DICE wrote:we’re also replacing the accuracy penalty in Battlefield 3 with a scope sway effect – similar to what snipers get in Battlefield 3 while suppressed. A skilled, focused player can keep his aim on target and get hits, even while under the effects of Suppression.

Ante wrote:any bullet damage modifiers are a cause for concern imo.

Ante wrote:How is LMGs getting more suppression dumb? It's exactly the role they're tailored for and they should excel over all the other weapon types at it. Having an assault rifle match an LMG for suppression while having greater accuracy, lower recoil, and better mobility is the dumb move here, not this.

Ars Diaboli wrote:I'm not sure how I feel about the Assault still being the medic. It really is a bit overpowered in BF3.

Ars Diaboli wrote:All right, I like those changes then. I won't say much until I play it. This IS DICE after all, they tend to find ways to fuck it up.

A wise man on another site wrote:I like Recon having C4 back. I just don't think that Support should also have C4. Maybe they should have the mortar binoculars instead. Or a much bigger, single-use demo pack. Or anything at all to differentiate the classes so they aren't to similar.


So now that you can pick and choose gadgets, what is the difference between a Support running with C4, Claymores and a carbine and a Recon using the exact same set-up? Their character model?

No sir. I don't like it.

Metalzoic wrote:

A wise man on another site wrote:I like Recon having C4 back. I just don't think that Support should also have C4. Maybe they should have the mortar binoculars instead. Or a much bigger, single-use demo pack. Or anything at all to differentiate the classes so they aren't to similar.


So now that you can pick and choose gadgets, what is the difference between a Support running with C4, Claymores and a carbine and a Recon using the exact same set-up? Their character model?

No sir. I don't like it.

Word.

Ante using a rational voice wrote:A little bit of explosives overlap (and it's only these 2 classes. it's not like assault is getting rocket launchers and engies grenade launchers)

Ante in his infinite wisdom wrote:to help more classes be somewhat effective against vehicles is a good thing

DICE Blog wrote:The Support kit has a few more offensive options, and thanks to community feedback will retain his C4 and Claymores from Battlefield 3. The XM25 gives him some nice indirect suppressive fire, a redesigned remote mortar allows him to use indirect fire from a distance, and the ability to equip carbines and DMRs gives him an added versatility in combat roles.

Recon has gotten a much needed boost to mobility, as well as the return of the Spec Ops play style from Battlefield 2. Pack a carbine, C4 (or Claymores), and Motion Sensors and you’re good to go behind enemy lines. Fans of more traditional sniping roles will enjoy our revamped sniping mechanics with rebalanced Sniper Rifles, the ability to zero your sights (set an aiming distance), and additional optics and accessories. Finally, the Recon players can still utilise the MAV, T-UGS, and Radio Beacon to help out their team.

Here's my vote:
Give C4 to Recon, but not Claymores
Give Claymores to Support, but not Recon

Ars while stroking a cat wrote:

Here's my vote:
Give C4 to Recon, but not Claymores
Give Claymores to Support, but not Recon

This, please.

I really want DICE to keep each class very different from each other, not interchangeable.

HydrasBreath while growing more beard wrote:Yeah I think only one class having claymores is enough. They are annoying enough as it is. And from what I gather support gets mortar binocs and not recon...Unless I missed something?