BF3 MP footage from e3 in 1080p

Was just about to post this. Damn!

I DVR'd it off of Spike TV and I've watched it several times now (in slow motion even. Ha!)

These MP graphics look so different from the SP PC footage that they've shown that it's possible this is console footage, or at least that console graphics will be similar.

Metalzoic wrote:I DVR'd it off of Spike TV and I've watched it several times now (in slow motion even. Ha!)

These MP graphics look so different from the SP PC footage that they've shown that it's possible this is console footage, or at least that console graphics will be similar.

I'd be very happy if this was console footage, but it may simply be that the multiplayer visuals are scaled down from single player to accomodate all the players and everything going on. Hope we get to find out soon!

Okay I picked out some new weapons from the killfeed in that video.


Dragunov SVD
M249
AK-74M
Pecheneg <- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecheneg_machine_gun
MP443 (yay the Grach is back)
M9
M16A4



This trailer also confirms you can be killed by falling debris.

HOLY SHIT that looks amazing!

Even if its on pc, it cant be that much worse on consoles.

The falling debris kills will probably be both hilarious and rage-inducing.

I like the fact that I see you can go prone now.

The only one thing that I don't like: video shows somebody get stabbed/killed instantly from the FRONT. Rage-inducing CoD-style knifing will probably be back again, unfortunately. Knife>Gun, lol.

Oh well, everything else looks absolutely FANTASTIC! The graphics, the sound, the destruction. It all looks really good.

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:The falling debris kills will probably be both hilarious and rage-inducing.

I like the fact that I see you can go prone now.

The only one thing that I don't like: video shows somebody get stabbed/killed instantly from the FRONT. Rage-inducing CoD-style knifing will probably be back again, unfortunately. Knife>Gun, lol.

Oh well, everything else looks absolutely FANTASTIC! The graphics, the sound, the destruction. It all looks really good.

Did you see how slow the knife animation played out? It's going to make you so vulnerable that it would be stupid to do it unless you and your target are the only ones around.

I think they might have cheated here...

I think this is actually real life footage with the text added in.

Ante wrote:

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:The falling debris kills will probably be both hilarious and rage-inducing.

I like the fact that I see you can go prone now.

The only one thing that I don't like: video shows somebody get stabbed/killed instantly from the FRONT. Rage-inducing CoD-style knifing will probably be back again, unfortunately. Knife>Gun, lol.

Oh well, everything else looks absolutely FANTASTIC! The graphics, the sound, the destruction. It all looks really good.

Did you see how slow the knife animation played out? It's going to make you so vulnerable that it would be stupid to do it unless you and your target are the only ones around.

But it could be cinematic-type BS that makes it so you can move while they do it, or they may be able to kill you even though you shoot them a lot. BC2 is that way, somewhat: the knife animation is slow, so it shouldn't be possible, in theory. But the knife can still beat a gun in somewhat, very stupid circumstances, especially with the 40MM and pump action shotguns.

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:

Ante wrote:

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:The falling debris kills will probably be both hilarious and rage-inducing.

I like the fact that I see you can go prone now.

The only one thing that I don't like: video shows somebody get stabbed/killed instantly from the FRONT. Rage-inducing CoD-style knifing will probably be back again, unfortunately. Knife>Gun, lol.

Oh well, everything else looks absolutely FANTASTIC! The graphics, the sound, the destruction. It all looks really good.

Did you see how slow the knife animation played out? It's going to make you so vulnerable that it would be stupid to do it unless you and your target are the only ones around.

But it could be cinematic-type BS that makes it so you can move while they do it, or they may be able to kill you even though you shoot them a lot. BC2 is that way, somewhat: the knife animation is slow, so it shouldn't be possible, in theory. But the knife can still beat a gun in somewhat, very stupid circumstances, especially with the 40MM and pump action shotguns.

My point was that if you get caught and someone's going to knife you, the animation plays out slow enough that you can be saved if a teammate shoots your attacker. Either way I don't have a problem with it.

I mainly am thinking that they may be invincible while doing it or something too; I don't know. I get a bad feeling from the way it looks, but it could play out well. That, and hopefully revive invincibility is gone. I really want to try the demo in September; I'm going to be really pissed off if DICE made a game like this, but didn't fix the lag and hit-detection. But it looks like they've worked MUCH harder on this than BC2, so I have good feeling about that.

I have faith that DICE has made the best FPS experience in the history of gaming. I eagerly await the beta.

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:
The only one thing that I don't like: video shows somebody get stabbed/killed instantly from the FRONT. Rage-inducing CoD-style knifing will probably be back again, unfortunately. Knife>Gun, lol.

I have no problem with this, you can stab and kill somebody from the bront in BC2 and it was never a problem there.

Plus the way the animation plays out is awesome for the stab.

its better than in HF.

in HF you literally punch someone in the face and a blade magically is in your fist, wolverine style

Metalzoic wrote:

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:
The only one thing that I don't like: video shows somebody get stabbed/killed instantly from the FRONT. Rage-inducing CoD-style knifing will probably be back again, unfortunately. Knife>Gun, lol.

I have no problem with this, you can stab and kill somebody from the bront in BC2 and it was never a problem there.

Plus the way the animation plays out is awesome for the stab.

No, what I mean is, stabbing from the front should be taken out of games. It makes no sense that a knife should be more lethal than bullets. I would like if it was a 2-3 hit kill melee from the front, but if you get a cinematic kill if you get behind them (either stealth or sheer luck/agility), where you tear their throat out, or slice it with a knife. Halo: Reach had the right idea, as far as that goes.

It's open BETA in September, right?

Watch that video again, Bob. The enemy clearly comes up from the side to stab him. The enemy spins the other guy around to face him before drilling him in the gut.

Oh gotcha. I kind of agree with you there.

Maybe make it Manhunt style.

Press and hold the melee button, the longer you hold it the more deadly it is when you release it (with mega-tons of attack animations!)

Charges 3x faster when you're behind them.

This way you could still ambush someone from the front for super awesome sneak attack gut/chest/throat/face/skull stabbing action

Something else I picked out from that video. Health doesn't regenerate on its own.

He's still in his field of vision when he goes into the animation it looks like. I don't know. I'm not liking it so far; it's very cool, but I just want the knife to become a stealth weapon only.

Oh, also, I know this is nitpicking, but one VERY small thing I hope that they fix: Your guy yells almost every time he knifes; very, very annoying. I go to sneak into a base, go to open a door/go through a fence and sneak in, and my guy all of a sudden is like "HUUUUUUUAAGHGHGH' or "WANT SOME OF THIS?!?" to the door, and then I get shot from every direction. It was funny, but it's one of those things I prefer to see out this time, lol.

It DOESN'T?!?! YEEEEESSSSS!!!! Finally, no more health recharge!

Ante wrote:Something else I picked out from that video. Health doesn't regenerate on its own.

Oh dear God. If you actually have to depend on medics to heal you this game will be un-playable.
Bob, how could you be happy about this.

On the flip side. If you take shots at a lone wolf sniper he's fucked even if you don't kill him.

Oh and ANOTHER thing. In the other trailer, after you stab a guy the knife stays in your hand. Looks like it will be a selectable weapon and not just a button press. Should allay some fears of panic knifing.

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:Something else I picked out from that video. Health doesn't regenerate on its own.

Oh dear God. If you actually have to depend on medics to heal you this game will be un-playable.
Bob, how could you be happy about this.

On the flip side. If you take shots at a lone wolf sniper he's fucked even if you don't kill him.

Medics aren't just point whores with limited usefulness; they're actually going to paid with points for actually doing a good job.

And yep, it'll be a lot harder for lone players (such as myself), so you'll have to work as a team a little better, and crappy Recons/lone players that aren't good enough to survive alone, will die/lose like they deserve.

It's selectable AGAIN!? Yet another, "YEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!"

There is one thing I've learned from watching this on youtube compared to my DVR of when it was on Spike.

I need to buy a whole new computer before this game comes out.

Spoiler:

They got paid with points in BC2 as well, but a lot of the time it was still a pain in the ass to get a med-kit from them.

Ante wrote:Oh and ANOTHER thing. In the other trailer, after you stab a guy the knife stays in your hand. Looks like it will be a selectable weapon and not just a button press. Should allay some fears of panic knifing.

I didn't notice that, good catch.
I still hope I can panic punch, kick, pistol whip them for some damage/concussion at least

Metalzoic wrote:They got paid with points in BC2 as well, but a lot of the time it was still a pain in the ass to get a med-kit from them.

But in BC2, they got paid WAY too much for what they did. If you were medic, and lost Ace Pin to a non-medic on a map that wasn't super vehicle heavy, you were doing something VERY wrong. Not to mention medics had awesome weapons, and were paid to heal you at a rate only slightly faster than your normal regen. Now, medics hopefully won't have ridiculous weapons, but for sure will HAVE to heal people, making them actually deserve their points, unlike in BC2.

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:Oh and ANOTHER thing. In the other trailer, after you stab a guy the knife stays in your hand. Looks like it will be a selectable weapon and not just a button press. Should allay some fears of panic knifing.

I didn't notice that, good catch.
I still hope I can panic punch, kick, pistol whip them for some damage/concussion at least

Pistol whipping/rifle butting would be awesome!

Ante wrote:

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:Oh and ANOTHER thing. In the other trailer, after you stab a guy the knife stays in your hand. Looks like it will be a selectable weapon and not just a button press. Should allay some fears of panic knifing.

I didn't notice that, good catch.
I still hope I can panic punch, kick, pistol whip them for some damage/concussion at least

Pistol whipping/rifle butting would be awesome!

I think so, I'd like a variety of animations though pistol/rifle butt, left hand punch, kick, headbutt etc...
Maybe have it do no damage but blur the screen and move your point of aim off target in a random direction.

Ante wrote:

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:Oh and ANOTHER thing. In the other trailer, after you stab a guy the knife stays in your hand. Looks like it will be a selectable weapon and not just a button press. Should allay some fears of panic knifing.

I didn't notice that, good catch.
I still hope I can panic punch, kick, pistol whip them for some damage/concussion at least

Pistol whipping/rifle butting would be awesome!

Exactly; I would like to see it make a return in games, versus the knife.

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:Oh and ANOTHER thing. In the other trailer, after you stab a guy the knife stays in your hand. Looks like it will be a selectable weapon and not just a button press. Should allay some fears of panic knifing.

I didn't notice that, good catch.
I still hope I can panic punch, kick, pistol whip them for some damage/concussion at least

Pistol whipping/rifle butting would be awesome!

I think so, I'd like a variety of animations though pistol/rifle butt, left hand punch, kick, headbutt etc...
Maybe have it do no damage but blur the screen and move your point of aim off target in a random direction.

I like all of this except for flinch. Flinch is the worst thing you can put in an FPS. It makes health pointless, because once you're shot, it's like a lottery drawing as to whether or not you can hit your target. Even purely visual flinch (BC2) is annoying as all fuck because it makes you try to correct your aim when you don't need to.

Looks fucking fantastic.

Who do I have to kill to get my new video card!?!

Ante wrote:

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:

Metalzoic wrote:

Ante wrote:Oh and ANOTHER thing. In the other trailer, after you stab a guy the knife stays in your hand. Looks like it will be a selectable weapon and not just a button press. Should allay some fears of panic knifing.

I didn't notice that, good catch.
I still hope I can panic punch, kick, pistol whip them for some damage/concussion at least

Pistol whipping/rifle butting would be awesome!

I think so, I'd like a variety of animations though pistol/rifle butt, left hand punch, kick, headbutt etc...
Maybe have it do no damage but blur the screen and move your point of aim off target in a random direction.

I like all of this except for flinch. Flinch is the worst thing you can put in an FPS. It makes health pointless, because once you're shot, it's like a lottery drawing as to whether or not you can hit your target. Even purely visual flinch (BC2) is annoying as all fuck because it makes you try to correct your aim when you don't need to.

Hmmm, I'm the opposite. It annoys me when there's no physical reaction or penalty to being shot. It makes it seem like the weapons are powerless and weak.

However I'm feeling nice, so I'll make it so that Body Armor reduces damage and removes flinching. There. You have a new favorite perk!

I'm kinda hoping perks/specs are removed from the game, but I won't mind if they stay. As long as the whole SP/Jugg/Sonic Boom-type bullshit is all gone, I'd be okay with it.

This is interesting...

Karl Troedsson: We'll hopefully be showing console footage sooner rather than later. We're still dialing in the Kinect and Move support and want it to be perfect when we unveil it"

Metalzoic wrote:This is interesting...

We're still dialing in the Kinect and Move support and want it to be perfect when we unveil it"

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FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!

Why do they even have a Kinect in a game that's as non-casual as this?

Ny bet is that the kinect will be optional, and if anything, disadvantageous/gimmicky.

How're you guys picking some of this stuff up from that video? Like the health not recharging - how can you tell? It seems to me to that the edits are too quick to make out that kind of detail - or is there another video/link that I'm missing?

Also, is there a link to that Kinect/Move reference? Please tell me it ain't true.....

The only multiplayer footage I've seen is the 49sec hit on the first page of this topic....?

Zillah wrote:Ny bet is that the kinect will be optional, and if anything, disadvantageous/gimmicky.

This. Good God, I hope nobody is actually dumb enough to use it for multiplayer. Something tells me I'm going to get teams of 5-year-olds ALL using Kinects. :/

Karl Troedsson: There are still adjustments to be made certainly, but we're already very happy with where it's at. On the box [sic, Kinect] especially. We're approaching a level of fine control normally only found with a mouse."

Metalzoic wrote:

Karl Troedsson: There are still adjustments to be made certainly, but we're already very happy with where it's at. On the box [sic, Kinect] especially. We're approaching a level of fine control normally only found with a mouse."

I call shenanigans on him; if it was that good, I'd eat my hat if I had one.

Metalzoic wrote:

Karl Troedsson: There are still adjustments to be made certainly, but we're already very happy with where it's at. On the box [sic, Kinect] especially. We're approaching a level of fine control normally only found with a mouse."

Please, where is this information coming from? LINK ME UP DUDE!

SR-25

Engineers get the M4A1.

Assaults get AK-74U and M it seems.

SQUAD FUCKING LEADERS!

Also, underground gameplay overlapping the above ground.

Metalzoic wrote:This is interesting...

Karl Troedsson: We'll hopefully be showing console footage sooner rather than later. We're still dialing in the Kinect and Move support and want it to be perfect when we unveil it"

Goddamnit no. Why can't they just let the motion control fad die.

When you want to control 2 turrets on a tank or an AA tank, WHATUDO? The only thing kinect would be good for is using 2 independent AA turrets or turning a guided rocket really REALLY fast.

Karl Troedsson: The core gamers seem to be very uncomfortable with this new focus on motion controls. They'd probably also be uncomfortable knowing I like to put gerbils in my ass. I say fuck them, I love ass gerbils."

Getting this on PC so I don't have to worry about the impending Kinect kiddies on my squad. Feels good man.

Ante wrote:Getting this on PC so I don't have to worry about the impending Kinect kiddies on my squad. Feels good man.

You'll just have to worry about getting banned for doing well for "hacking/cheating" or "playing unfairly" xD

Kitsune no Kaji wrote:

Ante wrote:Getting this on PC so I don't have to worry about the impending Kinect kiddies on my squad. Feels good man.

You'll just have to worry about getting banned for doing well for "hacking/cheating" or "playing unfairly" xD

I've always worried about that, but it's only happened once.

The great thing about getting kicked that way was, you know that you just kicked their ass so bad, that they got butthurt enough to ban you, which means you won on a scale that's better than a normal victory.