Things to Improve BC2

sounds good.

Everything you said Frost, plus:

Make hit detection on everything actually work.

Nerf the semi-auto buckshot back to normal

Nerf slugs to take even longer to draw

All bullets should damage choppers, but limited: even 5 bullets per 1 damage would be fine.

Up M95/Heavy MG damage to choppers, to make them usual.

C4 needs to be fixed to actually detonate when you click it, instead of the dud C4 you get sometimes, that won't even explode if you throw a grenade at it.

Grenade Upgrade or something should raise the number of motion mines that Recons can carry.

There should be level restrictions/license restriction for vehicles, meaning you have unlock or earn them.

M16 needs a little more recoil

Medic packs should give 5, not 10 points to the user.

It should give 5 points for a repair.

Recons should have an "optimal range bonus". Meaning that they don't get more points for being further away, but get max points for being at a certain distance; for the sake of discussion, 100 yards. So, the maximum headshot bonus you can get is +100, but if you get closer/further away, headshots give less and less points. This will keep Recon with BA rifles where they are supposed to be.

HIT DETECTION! DID I MENTION HIT DETECTION?!

The fucking lunchbox shit. Seriously, I hate trying to throw ammo/health, then game glitches, and won't let me throw it for myself/teammate, and one/both of us die because of it.

Dying to the knife should half your score, and count as many deaths as your level is, minus the rank of the person who did. So, a rank 1 knifing a 50 would count as 49 deaths for the 50.

Add a feature to give squads initiative to work harder; having 3rd or less place of the scoreboard, means you multiply your position there by 100, and you lose that much experience. Players on the bottom of the scoreboard also lose 1,2, or 3 unlocks (10,11,12th place, respectively)

That's just some of the things that should be fixed, not even all of the ideas.

Frostbyrn wrote:Let people Zoom done the Binocs even when theyre Recharging

-Yeah, this would be nice. I think binoculars should be standard equipment for all classes though.

Give the Knife a little more lunge or just get rid of the Stupid Stab animation

-No, the knife is fine as is. It's a humiliation weapon and nothing more.

Put a Limit of the amount of people with Snipers on the Team

-No, because then all the shitty snipers get the recon spots and people like me get fucked over and are forced to pick something they don't want to play.

Add a bunch of Words on the Screen that say the MCOM has been Armed so we can differentiate between that and Random objective damage also add a Notification when the Mcom is below 25% health

-I agree with this, it can be annoying trying to figure out if an mcom is armed or not and always wondering how much health it has left is a pain too.

Any Damage done to a Car with C4 on it should Detonate Said C4

-Doesn't really make any logical sense. Jihad C4ing is annoying, but there's really no way to fix it with the way the game engine works.

Reduce the Recoil on the M14 slightly its currently ridiculous especially since it has no Knockback except what comes from the first Shot

-Recoil is fine on the M14, I wish they would raise the fire rate cap on it personally.

Increase Tanks Splash damage Shooting a guy in the foot and watching him get away is Stupid

-Agree with this.

Make Alt Fire on the UAV a Tracer instead of the Annoying ass 50 cal

-Agree with this.

UAV's should not Insta kill tanks from behind

-With warhead on, yeah OHK is fine, but without, it shouldn't OHK.

Increase the Speed of the Rocket and decrease the Recharge on UAV's with maybe a little Damage nerf

-The UAV is pretty much fine as is. It's primary role is reconnaissance with a secondary function as anti-armor. If anything I think anyone spotted by a UAV should show a distance indicator above their head like the flags do on conquest.

Add in an Option to only allow a certain class on Servers like No Engineers or a no wookies Server

-Pretty sure this is possible on PC, but completely unnecessary.

Anyone playing Engineer on Nelson Bay should immediately be Dunked in Hot oil and Killed because the only reason your an Engineer on that level is too Gustav whore

-Silenced weapons.

Make Extended Mags for Shotguns a First slot Spec not a Second slot spec

-Eh, don't really care either way. Pump shotguns should have 8 rounds by default, though.

Remove Mag ammo it ultimately wastes a Second Spec for some people using it on the Wrong guns and it was just there for CoD fanboys anyway

-Agreed, Demize99 has already said that Body Armor and Magnum Ammo are never making a return in Battlefield again.

This is all IMO, obviously.



EDIT:

Bob, I can get on board with most of your stuff but then I get to this part:

DrBob276 wrote:

Dying to the knife should half your score, and count as many deaths as your level is, minus the rank of the person who did. So, a rank 1 knifing a 50 would count as 49 deaths for the 50.

Add a feature to give squads initiative to work harder; having 3rd or less place of the scoreboard, means you multiply your position there by 100, and you lose that much experience. Players on the bottom of the scoreboard also lose 1,2, or 3 unlocks (10,11,12th place, respectively)

That's just some of the things that should be fixed, not even all of the ideas.

and just facepalm. Hard. You need to relax and let the baddies learn to be good or move on from the game on their own. Your sick, twisted thought process of extreme punishment = motivation puts you far into the minority. I've done poorly on the leaderboards and still managed to do my part for the team. Do I deserve to lose access to my favorite gun?

frost +

hit detection

make heal+ and range + on both perk slot but you only choose 1, you can have 1 gun helper spec (rds, ammo, gr upgrade, mag ammo bod armor) and 1 medic perk (heal and range) no more mag ammo rds bs

make an extra motion sensor perk

increase revive paddle charge time

make a heli entry delay so the same guy doesnt get te chopper over and over
(10 seconds maybe)

make the ammo, and medic and engie callouts blink on the front of your screen, they are hard to see sometimes when its loud

nemesis pins get a cool dogtag thing

helicopters have fuel and have to land at base to fuel up

engies can repair copters easier then when the heli is just flying straight

sam turrets that are restricted to the spawning airspace in conquest

objective damage gives 10 points
haeals give 5 and revives give 25

score streaks give either a quick respawn of a number of vehicle, a special vehicle ordered in. a heavy artillery strike,

a spm drop results in a death and an extra respawn delay, and the option to kick

negative points exceeding -300 or more for hc total results in a ban fro online for a day

give the at4 more infantry damage

It's not twisted, it will motivate people to play better, or they are not going to have some of their unlocks next game. Most of the time, the top 3 teammates do all the work, and the rest of the team kinda slacks off. This way, both teams are fighting at their 100%, utmost potential, and failure to beat your teammates will be punished. The only exemption to not losing 100 for 4th place is to be in a 4 man squad. It would mean that people will actually want to stick together and heal/resupply each other, while avoiding helping other squads, which will keep them seperated, coordinated, and working with each other, not just running around everywhere.The bottom squad, or last 3 individual players should be punished for failure to help their team.

It's not fun to have me troll is it? In other words, BF players need to keep trolling out of the CoD boards, or I will not be afraid to troll these boards. Don't dish out what you can't take. If this frustrates you, then I am glad, because then the purpose was fulfilled.

DrBob276 wrote:It's not fun to have me troll is it? In other words, BF players need to keep trolling out of the CoD boards, or I will not be afraid to troll these boards. Don't dish out what you can't take. If this frustrates you, then I am glad, because then the purpose was fulfilled.

What are you talking about?

The CoD board is constantly getting trolled, if it keeps up, so will I; it is only fair, is it not?

Um, no.

If you think someone is trolling report them and we'll look into it, don't troll somewhere else, that's not really productive.

It's revenge, but fine.

Not you specificially, it does not matter who it is.

LOL yeah to be honest I was confused when I read bob's post. Was kind of random and out of place.

I don't know why really, I just felt annoyed for a second, so I just kinda did; impulse and aggression I guess.

Frostbyrn wrote:

And when i said the Sniper limit i meant with Actual Sniper rifles you could still all Kit wookie

I never all kit as a recon. I use a 4x on the bolt actions. I do like the idea of grenade spec giving more motion sensors. Makes sense too.




Bob, whenever someone makes a counter argument to anything you say you immediately jump to the conclusion that they're trolling you. What the hell? Since when does debate = troll?

ante87 wrote:

Frostbyrn wrote:

And when i said the Sniper limit i meant with Actual Sniper rifles you could still all Kit wookie

I never all kit as a recon. I use a 4x on the bolt actions. I do like the idea of grenade spec giving more motion sensors. Makes sense too.




Bob, whenever someone makes a counter argument to anything you say you immediately jump to the conclusion that they're trolling you. What the hell? Since when does debate = troll?

Debating with no logical argument/evidence = trolling. It would be like going to court, they have pictures of somebody, finger prints, and a murder weapon, then trying to say the guy is innocent because he doesn't look bad. That is not a logical argument, with no statistical evidence.

Frostbyrn wrote:Its a GFQ mindset everyone who doesnt Share your Opinion is a Troll dont worry the SeC is Rehab

I was on GameFAQs for 4 years, and I don't think people were like that. That is where I learned what is considered to be a good player, and bad player, and what real logical arguments are.

Because not using statistical facts, or even real gameplay facts, means that you are wrong. Also, being better at a game gives you an elevated position in an argument, because your word matters more than their's does, by far.

DrBob276 wrote:

ante87 wrote:

Frostbyrn wrote:

And when i said the Sniper limit i meant with Actual Sniper rifles you could still all Kit wookie

I never all kit as a recon. I use a 4x on the bolt actions. I do like the idea of grenade spec giving more motion sensors. Makes sense too.




Bob, whenever someone makes a counter argument to anything you say you immediately jump to the conclusion that they're trolling you. What the hell? Since when does debate = troll?

Debating with no logical argument/evidence = trolling. It would be like going to court, they have pictures of somebody, finger prints, and a murder weapon, then trying to say the guy is innocent because he doesn't look bad. That is not a logical argument, with no statistical evidence.

Woah, what the hell? My arguments are more than reasonable.

Asking for a slightly higher fire cap on the m14/m1/T88/SVU = reasonable
Asking for poor leaderboard placement to de-rank and take away unlocks = unreasonable


Prove me wrong.

No, ante, I was talking about this. No offense is going to you. I am talking about other arguments I do like the idea of a RoF increase on the semi-autos, by far.

DrBob276 wrote:No, ante, I was talking about this. No offense is going to you. I am talking about other arguments I do like the idea of a RoF increase on the semi-autos, by far.

Alright, my apologies.

ante87 wrote:

DrBob276 wrote:No, ante, I was talking about this. No offense is going to you. I am talking about other arguments I do like the idea of a RoF increase on the semi-autos, by far.

Alright, my apologies.

Thanks, but you don't have to apologize to me.

I would like to apologize as well, for getting angry far too fast, and for not being so clear.

Honestly bob...a lot of your arguments are based on opinion. So by your reasoning your trolling also. And in almost every debate, it is over opinions. If it was a statistical fact...why in the hell would there be a debate?

Also who gives a crap if someone is better or not at a game? Just because they do good doesnt mean their opinion is by default, more important.

zk50 x erk wrote:Honestly bob...a lot of your arguments are based on opinion. So by your reasoning your trolling also. And in almost every debate, it is over opinions. If it was a statistical fact...why in the hell would there be a debate?

Also who gives a crap if someone is better or not at a game? Just because they do good doesnt mean their opinion is by default, more important.

No, a lot of my arguments are based on fact, and I know what the hell I'm talking about, as well as giving statistics.

It does mean their opinion is more important, because if somebody says something that has a 1.00 K/D, and somebody who says something has a 1.70, it's much more believable to listen to what the guy with the 1.7 has to say, because he obviously knows what he is doing more than the guy with the 1.00. If anything from GameFAQs has taught me, it's that experience and skill matter when it comes to arguments, unless you want to just be called a dumbass repeatedly because your skill level is too low to have any merit.

DrBob276 wrote:

zk50 x erk wrote:Honestly bob...a lot of your arguments are based on opinion. So by your reasoning your trolling also. And in almost every debate, it is over opinions. If it was a statistical fact...why in the hell would there be a debate?

Also who gives a crap if someone is better or not at a game? Just because they do good doesnt mean their opinion is by default, more important.

No, a lot of my arguments are based on fact, and I know what the hell I'm talking about, as well as giving statistics.

It does mean their opinion is more important, because if somebody says something that has a 1.00 K/D, and somebody who says something has a 1.70, it's much more believable to listen to what the guy with the 1.7 has to say, because he obviously knows what he is doing more than the guy with the 1.00. If anything from GameFAQs has taught me, it's that experience and skill matter when it comes to arguments, unless you want to just be called a dumbass repeatedly because your skill level is too low to have any merit.

That's just ridiculous.

topic when down the toilet about 3/4 of a page in. after that it became a pissing contest. I'm not going to argue with you about why but your just way off the handle bob

I don't think the M14 needs less spread just because you can't use it without a 4X Scope Frost =/

DrBob276 wrote:

zk50 x erk wrote:Honestly bob...a lot of your arguments are based on opinion. So by your reasoning your trolling also. And in almost every debate, it is over opinions. If it was a statistical fact...why in the hell would there be a debate?

Also who gives a crap if someone is better or not at a game? Just because they do good doesnt mean their opinion is by default, more important.

No, a lot of my arguments are based on fact, and I know what the hell I'm talking about, as well as giving statistics.

It does mean their opinion is more important, because if somebody says something that has a 1.00 K/D, and somebody who says something has a 1.70, it's much more believable to listen to what the guy with the 1.7 has to say, because he obviously knows what he is doing more than the guy with the 1.00. If anything from GameFAQs has taught me, it's that experience and skill matter when it comes to arguments, unless you want to just be called a dumbass repeatedly because your skill level is too low to have any merit.

I guess my option means nothing then.

Well about the list, I thought it was pretty solid. The only thing that would improve it would be a bit of punctuation.

And i agree with terry, this argument is pretty lame...

Tsk tsk. Sometimes your sentences can become sort of train wrecks.

Yes, i guess you could put it like that.

Shut up! that word needs to be kept on gamefaqs.

The two of them put together.

Yes. You would make one mistake, and people would flame you...