Moral Debate

Just like was proposed in Epyk's thread, I figured we could start now.

Ok, for the first one let's start off with something well known.

There is a train coming along its tracks. And on those tracks are two people, tied up and unable to move. One is your true love, and the other is your closest familial relative. You can only save one, and the other will die a quick, painless death. Who do you go for?

edit: oh, and a little explanation why

I'd toss a baby on the tracks and bail.

Serves them right for getting themselves tied on a train track, you're not supposed to do that.

Chewy wrote:I'd toss a baby on the tracks and bail.

Serves them right for getting themselves tied on a train track, you're not supposed to do that.

Winner!

I would save the girl I love. Simply based on the fact that my mother has a lot less life ahead of her.

I'd go for the girl too, mostly because my family is not too close to me anyways.

the girl because fuck my family

JrTapia1991 wrote:the girl because fuck my family

pretty much this and plus like someone already said the girl would presumably (unless you're into GMILFS ) have more of a life ahead of them.

I think this choice is a bit too easy. I propose a slight modification. If you pick the girl your family member dies a slow,excruciating and painful death that you must witness but if you pick your family member over the girl she dies quickly and painlessly and you don't have to see it.

would anyone's choice change under these circumstances? I know mine would. I don't think I could bear to witness my family crying out in agony...I just couldn't live with that.

mine wouldn't. I'd still save the girl, then leave.

Pariah wrote:mine wouldn't. I'd still save the girl, then leave.

could you explain your reasoning? I'm curious as to why it wouldn't change for you.

This sounds like a more boring tame version of "Would you rather?"

But I would go with family, fuck bitches

HydrasBreath wrote:

Pariah wrote:mine wouldn't. I'd still save the girl, then leave.

could you explain your reasoning? I'm curious as to why it wouldn't change for you.

yeah. my pleasure.

ok, my father and I have never been close. Literally the first time I talked to him about growing up/girls/sex/anything emotional was last sunday. Honestly he and I just coexist in this house. I'm just barely starting to care about him. we're still pretty distant though.

My mum and I have a love hate relationship. As in we hate eachother constantly.

I hate my sister. Just straight up hate her.

mine wouldn't change either.only reason I haven't kicked my mom out of my apt is cuz she pays the light bill lol but as soon as I have a way of paying that bill she's out....she's too hateful and bi polar and threatens to call the cops for the littlest of things,like,me not giving her a soda...lol wtf

sad thing is,the cops here are so corrupted they would probably really try to take me to jail over a coke

Siren Dropped Da Soap wrote:This sounds like a more boring tame version of "Would you rather?"

But I would go with family, fuck bitches

well let's get at the fundamental question behind the scenario. Why is romantic love more important than other types of love? Is it perhaps due to a biological need to advance the species or is there something more at work?

Most of you chose the girl...do you guys think it's right to chose romantic love with someone that perhaps you haven't known that long versus the love of say a mother who brought you into existence and sacrificed so much to raise you and who you've know your entire life. Do you guys think it's really right to choose the girl?

(and sorry pariah this kind of turned more philosophical than ethical)

no problem at all hydra, I love the development.

Honestly, I considered the girl because I've gotten almost no companionship from my family, and that's one of the things I value most in life.

well,I just thought of another way,I would only pick the girl if she would stay with me forever and not turn out to be a bitch like all other GFs have been lol...

other wise she could get run over for all I care

there would be no way of knowing if one day after you save the girl from the train,you come home,to find her in bed with your dad or even worse lmfao

Pariah wrote:

HydrasBreath wrote:

Pariah wrote:mine wouldn't. I'd still save the girl, then leave.

could you explain your reasoning? I'm curious as to why it wouldn't change for you.

yeah. my pleasure.

ok, my father and I have never been close. Literally the first time I talked to him about growing up/girls/sex/anything emotional was last sunday. Honestly he and I just coexist in this house. I'm just barely starting to care about him. we're still pretty distant though.

My mum and I have a love hate relationship. As in we hate eachother constantly.

I hate my sister. Just straight up hate her.

Yeah I get that...Me and my father are pretty much the same. He's a racist, homophobic, hateful biggot piece of shit. Me and him haven't ever really talked beyond anything superficial like "where are you going?" "what do you want for supper?" that kind of thing.

If it was him on the train tracks it's really hard for me to say what I would do. Thinking about it I would probably leave him there.

Now my mom is different me and her are cool. I'd probably save her over the girl (it would depend who it is as I am not currently with someone). Hard to really know without being in the heat of the moment.

My brother is probably the one I'd be most likely to save out of all my family. He and I are the closest.

I would jump infront of the train and stop it with my bare hands.

Pariah wrote:no problem at all hydra, I love the development.

Honestly, I considered the girl because I've gotten almost no companionship from my family, and that's one of the things I value most in life.

yeah philosophy and thinking of all the different angles on issues and the world has always been a love of mine. I have some pretty unique views on some things.

damn man sounds like my dad.Doesn't help he was an illegal immigrant and barely knows any english....really been thinking of moving back to his place since my mom has really lost her fucking mind,I mean,who threatens to call the cops over a soda?lol...

but.......remembering how bad he is,she might be the lesser of two evils.idk.the good thing about my dad is he never ever talks,like ever.My mom can't shut the hell up 0__o

JrTapia1991 wrote:well,I just thought of another way,I would only pick the girl if she would stay with me forever and not turn out to be a bitch like all other GFs have been lol...

other wise she could get run over for all I care

there would be no way of knowing if one day after you save the girl from the train,you come home,to find her in bed with your dad or even worse lmfao

ah but that's the chance you take with the girl...you don't know if they will betray you. With your family (presumably) you'll get unconditional love.

HydrasBreath wrote:

Siren Dropped Da Soap wrote:This sounds like a more boring tame version of "Would you rather?"

But I would go with family, fuck bitches

well let's get at the fundamental question behind the scenario. Why is romantic love more important than other types of love? Is it perhaps due to a biological need to advance the species or is there something more at work?

Most of you chose the girl...do you guys think it's right to chose romantic love with someone that perhaps you haven't known that long versus the love of say a mother who brought you into existence and sacrificed so much to raise you and who you've know your entire life. Do you guys think it's really right to choose the girl?

(and sorry pariah this kind of turned more philosophical than ethical)

Well I think it all really depends on the relationship with both people. Regardless of who deserves to live more, if a person were in this scenario they would likely instinctively choose who they more enjoy being around. I mean that train has got to be close as shit if you can only save one, so there wouldn't be a whole lot of time for logic and philosophy.

Yeah that completely defeats the purpose of the question, deal with it.

I guess I have to clarify. I said "true" love. I meant to imply the love that stays forever, like the perfect girl who'd be there for the rest of your life.

oh well then hell yeah I'd take the girl

If you put it that way i would most definitely choose the girl, i mean i love my family but the girl will make always make you happy and you'll enjoy being around her. But the burden of knowing that one of your family members died(unwillingly) so you can be happy might haunt me.

Camel wrote:If you put it that way i would most definitely choose the girl, i mean i love my family but the girl will make always make you happy and you'll enjoy being around her. But the burden of knowing that one of your family members died(unwillingly) so you can be happy might haunt me.

Yeah I suppose if we are talking true love I'd need to go with that. It's presumably a once and a lifetime thing. I guess it just depends on how far you are willing to go and how much you are willing to sacrifice to be happy.

Honestly, I think I'd value that a lot more than familial love. Since I've proven in my own eyes I can live without my family, then I'm pretty sure I'd be ok.

True love would be the lesser of two evils I suppose...

probably my family. 6 months after saving the girl im infatuated with i'd probably cease to like her or vice versa, then i'd be fucked.

Familial member because I'm young and can find other true loves to have interkorz with. I'm a mafucking highschooler, after all.

This isn't morality; you're just giving preference to love interest or family. It's completely subjective to whomever is being asked the question.

I won't decide, or assign a value to one or the other. THAT is a moral choice.

OR

I lay down between them.